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To: gmcgee1@fo*.co*, techdiver@terra.net
From: ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* (Ken Sallot)
Subject: Re: That long hose thang...
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 06:43:31
Gary writes:

> How can you say taking a good working regulator out of your mouth
> is safer then keeping the regulator in your mouth?
>
> Again no imagination please.  Answer (simple) YES or NO!

Excuse me. You ask a "How can" question and expect a yes/no answer. 
Impossible. So, if the question was really "Is breathing the long hose safer" 
the answer is yes. If indeed you want a "How can" then here's how.

1) When a diver is out of air they notice it when they're trying to inhale. 
They suck an empty tank. They don't have a full set of lungs. They need air as 
quick as possible.

2) If you pass off the regulator that is working, guaranteed to be working, 
the one in your mouth then the diver immediatly has air, guaranteed. In the 
event that your octopus isn't working this will help to keep the situation 
under control, otherwise if it isn't working and you pass it to them, well 
they're still in need of air, but now that need is worse.

3) If you do things the right way and the octopus isn't working, then you 
at least have some time since you've just taken a full breath of air, to 
either (a) inform the diver breathing off your other regulator that you need 
to buddy breath, (b) try to fix problem with regulator.

4) In the event that the diver that is out of air grabs the one your breathing 
off of to begin with, he's now getting the one you want him to have.

Gary, no what-if's, nothing. Simple logic analysis requested from you: If a 
stressed out, out of air diver is handed a regulator that doesn't work for any 
reason (it got gunk in it, you had a roll off and didn't notice it, you never 
ever turned it on because you don't breath it, and when you did the S-Drill 
there was enough air in the 7' hose to make you think it worked, whatever), 
what do you think he will do? Do you think he's going to go calmly up to you, 
tap his lips "Excuse me, I'm out of air, I am still out of air, that previous 
regulator you gave me isn't working, would you be so kind as to buddy breath 
with me?". Do you really think so?

> Question:
> Is it safer to take a good working regulator out of your mouth underwater
> or to keep it in your mouth?

Taking a working regulator out of your mouth to pass off is not a valid 
reason not to do it the right way. If you can't switch a regulator underwater 
you shouldn't be diving, period. Is it safer to deny an out of air diver the 
air they need? You still haven't answered my question, I've answered all of 
yours. You know, you could get $1500 worth of tanks out of the deal, but I 
guess you can't find an answer.

Is it safer to take a bath as opposed to a shower? Studies have shown 
a substantial number of deaths each year are caused by people slipping in the 
shower.

Ken

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