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Ken,

You had the answer in your hand and you missed it. Don't look at _that_ part 
of the header, cast your eyes down at the message id. In the bogus message 
the message id is:

> Message-Id: <199601040301.WAA10078@du*.co*.co*>

Now have a look at my real message ID:

> Message-ID: <960104061519_73700.2054_FHR56-1@Co*.CO*>

See the date/time stamp? 

Now, I took a few minutes to review about 300 message ids from the messages I 
have saved from Techdiver and Cavers. of course since it's been moderated all 
of the caver ids are the same, but only _two_ resembled the bogus id:

This one is yours Ken:

>>Message-Id: <199512031855.NAA13753@no*.ne*.uf*.ed*>

. . .and this one belongs to (shock, dismay!) George Irvine:

>>Message-Id: <199512042357.PAA15603@m2*.in*.co*>

For comparison, here's Andy Schmidt's

>>Message-ID: <951205025622_74513.2274_EHH168-1@Co*.CO*>

As you can see, the true CIS ids are alike in their date/time stamp. They use 
the '96/01/04 01:50:30 format while George's server and yours use the full 
   1996/01/04 01:50:30 format. There's also some minor differences in the 
following syntax, but the difference is obvious and if you'll take a moment 
to review some other ids you'll see that they are _all_ unique to their 
systems. 

There were also some minor errors in the "Received" area if you want to have 
a look at that, but it's a quick job and not that hard to spot.

A friend tells me as I see Andy has explained to you that with a litle more 
time a knowledgeable person can make the headers completely identical so that 
no one can tell the difference.

There is a utility called a PGP that allows a sender on the internet to 
encrypt a part of the header for verification by another PGP user. This 
would allow the sender to prove, say in a court of law, that whatever 
statement that was made in his name was not actually made by him, but by 
another.

But it wasn't really necessary to go through all this cloak and dagger; it 
really only took a moment's reflection and even a cursory look at the writing 
style and content to have a pretty good guess at where this came from--I 
don't really think it came from you. And did you really think I would write 
GEORGE'S insults for him?--DUH!  <g>

But then like I said--gutless. . . .

JoeL

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