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>  On the redundant timer thing, you really need to draw the
>line everywhere you can. If you use a proper timer, it will
>not fail. If you are using some convoluted aire-integrated,
>hoseless pices of wet dream, you might as well take a box of
>them and make a weightbelt out of them - at least this would
>meet the solving mutliple problems with one piece of equipment.
>

George: I hear what you're saying about the timer and computer...especially
the computer....it's the last hold-out for me I guess before I leap from
the top of the mesa...I still have a bit of diving to do before I can let
go of a few bad habits (read crutches).

>  The need to understand the buddy concept and the need to
>think about what you are doing should be paramount. Then follow
>the rule, "if you don't need it , don't take it. If you will

Strange thing is that in a cave, I have no problem with the practice of
using my buddy as back-up...But relying on that concept up here on a wreck
where the vis is so bad that losing touch with the rest of the team, at
least for a while, is almost expected gives me an uneasy feeling...and at
any rate, I feel more comfortable penetrating tight, silty passages solo.
For the most part I use a digital bottom timer with an analogue depth gauge
and carry a watch... computers seem to get bent a lot!

Maybe that's about the only difference I can see between cave and wreck
though. I've read a number of folks on here telling me that you cannot do
both with the same gear configuration...I don't agree with that at all. I
take more notice of what's hanging from the "ceiling" in a wreck, but I
don't need to have useless crap stuck all over me to do that.

>just look at a deco schedule matrix, look away , and look back,
>you will suddenly see that it is a simple thing - not some
>complicated ordeal. Deco is your firend, not some measure of
>how big a dive is - stop worrying about it. Yo wuill soon see
>that you don't need cpomputers or any other nonsense.
>
>   - G

Absolutely...a very graphic illustration of the sense in that statement is
to try working out "modified" deco schedules underwater with tables in
adverse conditions....you soon realize it's a whole lot easier to have all
that shit put away in real memory before getting into the water...Must
admit though, sometimes a long deco can be an ordeal but that's more a
reaction to cold water conditions than anything else...and of course your
long decos and mine are a little different! I call a two-hour hang a hard
day at the office :-)


Take care George

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