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    "  themselves.  No matter what George thinks, he is NOT responsible for a
>single person who goes in the water under his leadership.  You don't go in
>the water unless you accept full responsibility to whatever "

        Rich and all - it may not be our responsibility per se, but
that does not stop ME from feeling responsible for making sure I 
am doing everything I can to see that the bases are all covered.

        Mentioning me and Joe Odem in the same post is an insult. He
may not be responsible for other people being strokes, but he sure as 
hell is responsible for his own actions. 


         Anyone who emulates Gilliam is responsible for their own
stokery - I agree.  - G

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