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From: "Andy Schmidt [NJ]" <74513.2274@co*.co*>
To: "'w wittman'" <wwittman@we*.co*>
Cc: "'techdiver@terra.net'" <techdiver@terra.net>
Subject: RE: Strokery on CompuServe
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 14:23:32 -0500
w wittman[SMTP:wwittman@we*.co*] said on Saturday, December 30, 1995 =
11:40 PM

Hi William,

>> it is incredible to me that Germany can dictate policy as to what =
those of us in other countries may or may not have access to <<

Actually, as you may know, Germany does NOT dictate policy in other =
countries. In Germany, prostitution is not illegal, female are permitted =
to sunbathe topless in their very own backyard (for which the local =
police will visit you in the U.S.), and you don't need a nude-beach just =
to bath naked. And yes, public TV is allowed to show any human body part =
- can you imagine a bare breast on ABC?

But Germany also prohibits delivery of sexual explicit materials to =
minors. Since CompuServe was not able to restrict access to adult =
newsgroups to ADULTS, I see nothing wrong with them complying with what =
I consider reasonable laws in any country. Furthermore, Germany does NOT =
permit pedophelia and bestiality (sex with children and sex with =
animals) out of a concern to protect those who are forced (or otherwise =
"made") to participate in such sexual activity. Any service that =
provides access to such material violates what, again, I consider =
reasonable laws for any country.

>> this is simply ridiculous..one option they CLEARLY had was to just =
cancel all of their German subscribers...but of course THAT would cost =
them revenue <<

The other option would have been to include parental control features so =
that only adults ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD have access to adult material. =
This is NOT a German problem, which allows its citizens far greater =
liberties as far as pornography, nudity and sexuality is concerned.=20

(Believe me, you wouldn't want your AMERICAN children to be exposed to =
half the material that German children consider quite natural.)

>> it is just not acceptable for one country to impose its standards of =
acceptablility in free speech on the REST of the world new world order =
indeed <<

Germany did not impose anything. It has laws that protect those who =
cannot fend for themselves, such as minors and animals. Actually, given =
the fact that similar laws exist in the U.S., I am quite amazed that =
Germany beat the U.S. to the punch. (Need I remind you of the case =
against an national BBS operator who was found guilty for violating the =
decency laws of a State half way across the continent?)

>> some of us might still prefer freedom <<

So do we. In order to protect freedom for all, we need to have policies =
that make sure that our freedoms don't injure other living things. (Try =
to exercise your "freedom" to kill a humpback whale - and I'll visit you =
in prison.) The online services need to get their act together and =
include effective parental controls to protect minors ANYWHERE in the =
world.

Andy

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