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I am in the dark as well on "the count", i have heard that there was a deep air course in progress and one of he "students" (who was an instrutor of another agency ie padi or naui etc) went past 250fsw on air and did not return. I was told that joe odom was the instructor for the course, i was also told that this diver was not a student in the course but just "along for the ride", also that he didn't listen to reason about diving deep on air and wasn't a very careful diver. there are two stories... what we <<do>> know is that yet another person is dead due to diving deep on air, something that imho is totally ignorant, the only thing worse that i can think of is a represenative, an instructor or director of ANY agency (formed to provide a place or institution for divers to learn a safer way to dive) to advocate this type of bull shit... and don't tell me that doing it and then bragging about it isn't advocation. at the 1994 rebreather forum in key west the germans didn't say much, but when they spoke.. EVERYBODY listened.. what they said was that they weren't interested in the tek market cuz we were all bunjie jumpers... they aproached marty snyderman and i later that week to discuss giving us units to use.. because they saw us as divers that needed a tool, NOT as boys that wanted toys to show off.. marty received and tested two fg150s, did not like them (as was my feelings about the atlantis) and sent them back. the german gov would not let us have the sms 2000s that were promised to us due to the political structure of their weapons considerations. (the only way they could have been taken out of the country was to ship them out in parts and put them back together in south america.. that was when the shit hit the fan in haite and we were once again roadblocked).. time went by and they finally gave up trying to get units to us.. then they put out the atlantis and told us to come to naussau and check them out. so here we are, at an international confrence with the germans, that called us bungie jumpers, i probably don't have to tell you how conservative the germans are by nature... and the organizers of the program are scaring the shit out of the germans by doing exactly what they wanted to stay away from the american market for... there was NO deco gas on board for a deep dive, there was NO planning for a deep dive, it was just "done", one of the divers didn't even have an alternate second stage, (much less a y or h valve with back up reg), and one of the divers had a student in tow that was left ALL BY HIS FUCKING SELF on a ledge at 260fsw... there's more, but then i'd probably get upset and start throwing shit at the computer screen... :-) THAT is the reason i didn't get back on the boat the last day. it was stupid, it was asinine... that is also (along with the shit going on the past two months) that i am no longer part of tdi, and btw, just for the record, i asked to be bought out... aloha, dennis On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, George M. Irvine III wrote: > > Dennis, we have been hearing rumblings about accidents in > the Bahamas and in Central America - could you please elaborate, > as we do not have the story. The actual "count" on these guys > would also be of interest, if you have access to that data. Email > me first, as I want to be the first to say "I told you so". -G > >
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