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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 05:43:49 -0800
Subject: Thank you , Harris Martin
To: techdiver@terra.net
Cc: cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*

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     All WKPP members need be aware that we are diving 3 days this weekend:
Fri, Sat, and Sunday. The Park called and said the basin is clear, so we need
to work A Tunnel, but we also need to do some more filming. Bob McGuirre will 
filming in B, and Warner will be filming in the basin.The Rat will coordinate 
both of these events. 
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separately:

    I have been working on a CARL proposal, and this reminds me of just how 
far off base  Harris Martin and his cronies are about the WKPP and the 
person who is running it - a little history lesson:

 1) I now remember what Mark Leonard said to one of our sponsors, D.U.I:
"We will have nothing to do with WKPP so long as Bill Gavin is running the 
Project".

2) I remember what Jim King said to the Park, " We can not work with Parker
Turner" (then the Director of WKPP).

3) Now we have Tom Morris, Wes Skiles, Bill Stone, John Zumrick, Mark Long, 
 Mark Leonard, et al saying the same thing about me, as indicated by the 
 outbursts of Harris Martin, who is only reflecting what he last heard,
 much like a human Macaw . Martin's sloppy mouth is how we  got a "heads up" on 
 things like the "training memo" on Bobby's death, and  other impending efforts 
 by  these guys to discredit our work. Martin is much like a small child 
 who repeats what he hears his parents say in private without  understanding
the 
 implications.

 4)Zumrick himself has tried to approach  other members of our team with the   
concept that he could work with someone other than me. He has tried to get
 several of my teammates to let him borrow the scooters I made for them so that
 he can have a "real engineer" (more real than Bill Gavin?) "improve" them.
 Of course, these scooters are real white elephants, as we all know - we
 just swim with them to look cool. 

   Get this: we don't need any of you  , we will do things the right way, we
 think your methods are just plain dangerous , and they are obviously   
ineffective -we proved that. We have 70 (seventy) people willing to play by the 
 rules, we don't need five or six "individuals" with their own private agenda   
for enrichment or aggrandizement - this is not a "circus" as Parker called it..

    Calling me divisive is music to my ears : I want to be the one who
 separates the talkers from the players, and you, Harris ,  are a good
 example. When any of your buddies  can produce results you can criticize
 us. Until then , you are wrong.  

    I would personally like to thank Harris Martin for making the decision
 to ignore these guys so easy and justifiable. Thank you, Harris, and next
 time you want some data to sit on and try to hatch , call someone else.

  -     George Irvine  





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