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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 02:50:39 -0500
To: GeorgeIrvine@in*.co*
From: wwittman@we*.co* (w wittman)
Subject: Re: More: on Antioxidants/whitman
Cc: cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*, techdiver@terra.net
At 6:14 PM 12/10/95, GeorgeIrvine@in*.co* wrote:

>    William, enogh of the semantics - you and I both know what is
> going on here. Mount is not exactly William Faulkner, and these
> guys are hammering him for it, just like you are.
>
>     Let me tell all of you something. I am the one out there doing
> these dives, along with my team. We all use the antioxidants. We do
> not know for sure if they are keeping us alive, but like I said the
> first time, we believe it helps, and we have been told it does not hurt.
>
>     I have always taken them, but I like to work out hard, and I
> get a much better recovery and nonexistant colds than if I do not
> use them.
>
>      Just like you , I go intravenous when necessary .
>
>      Look at my most recent video and keep in mind that I am 44 -argue
> with that. - G

there is a difference between scientific proof and anecdotal proof or belief

if you are saying that Tom just MEANT that he BELIEVES they help but there
is no PROOF, that is another story...THAT would be semantic

somehow i give Tom Mount the credit to take what he says at his word

i wasn't (and still am not) "attacking"...as i said..i'd bet i take more in
the way of vitamins (including anti-oxidants) than most

what i WAS doing was clarifying and ASKING Tom to cite some references
John Crea dn John Comly did similarly...and then YOU jumped on them for a
host of unrelated reasons

i still don't see how asking for studies to back up a claim of "proven to
help" is inappropriate.

YOU said (above):
"We do not know for sure if they are keeping us alive, but like I said the
 first time, we believe it helps, and we have been told it does not hurt."


if that was all Tom had said to begin with there would have been no argument


cheers,


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