Gentlemen, could we please stop the childish testosterone-induced spasms I have been subjected to recently about this stuff. All I would like out of this tech diving list is useful diving information. So far all I see is mostly nonsense. Being a woman in diving is hard enough without having a public forum dominated by bully male divers. I am planning to move from California to Florida for my job but after listening to you all, I don't know if it's worth the trouble to get the kind of dive training I want when I get there for fear it will be taught by a neanderthal. Maybe I should go elsewhere for cavern and cave training. Are there any magazines that talk about cavern/cave traing? Inez
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