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From: "Jess Armantrout" <trout@ca*.co*>
To: <terry-1@ly*.co*>, "Scott Landon" <js_landon@ho*.co*>
Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: RE: Stroke alert.
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:25:35 -0600
Well, I guess you have all the answers and we have nothing to discuss then.

Once more, GFY,
Trout

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Michael [mailto:terry-1@ly*.co*]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:37 AM
> To: terry-1@ly*.co*; Scott Landon; Jess Armantrout
> Cc: cavers@cavers.com
> Subject: Re: Stroke alert.
>
>
> No you hide behind your boss.;)
> Earlier in this thread you called me a stroke among other things.
>
> I still however personally believe the right equipment
> configuration is a step in the right direction but not a cure-all.
>
> However, take a look at the kpp site.
> There is a very nice example of a rig there, note there is no
> 380's, sissy rings, back-pads etc. if there was then I'd have to
> assume the kpp either was full of shit or had somehow sold out.;)
>
> Peace.
>
> --
>
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:24:12
>  Jess Armantrout wrote:
> >The difference being I don't hide behind some anonymous ISP.
> >
> >Again, if you are going to come on here demanding explanations, do us the
> >courtesy of identifying yourself.
> >
> >I don't "debate" fakes.
> >
> >Again, GFY,
> >Trout
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Terry Michael" <terry-1@ly*.co*>
> >To: <terry-1@ly*.co*>; "Scott Landon" <js_landon@ho*.co*>; "Jess
> >Armantrout" <trout@ca*.co*>
> >Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:57 PM
> >Subject: RE: Stroke alert.
> >
> >
> >> Trout,
> >>
> >> You're a little antagonistic at times too. I'm here to learn and debate
> >just like most.
> >>
> >> The 380 - sissy ring debate will not just go away until
> someone explains
> >the reasons why.
> >>
> >> A mile back at 280 is an unrelated subject in my opinion. I once knew a
> >guy that did 130 meters on a buddy inspiration rebreather and
> survived, does
> >that somehow make it OK or is he such a big hero?
> >>
> >> I've seen pictures of kpp bottles with suicide clips. This not
> only must
> >drive your boss (or maybe babysitter in this case?) crazy but also might
> >somehow legitimize their use in cave diving or somehow make it OK. That's
> >what I see as the major issue.
> >>
> >> Anyway - don't call me an asshole, you asshole! ;))
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:00:38
> >>  Jess Armantrout wrote:
> >> >I think what Scott was saying is he would rather not waste
> his time with
> >an
> >> >unknown, obviously antagonistic asshole with a fake account.
> >> >
> >> >So, identify yourself, or get lost.
> >> >
> >> >Sincerely GFY,
> >> >Trout
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Terry Michael [mailto:terry-1@ly*.co*]
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:51 AM
> >> >> To: terry-1@ly*.co*; Scott Landon
> >> >> Cc: cavers@cavers.com
> >> >> Subject: Re: Stroke alert.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry Scott,
> >> >>
> >> >> Was that a yes or a no?
> >> >> Or do we have to wait, for that answer, until I find a cave just
> >> >> like Wakalla and do a mile at 285? These caves are closed for
> >> >> good reason just take a look at the public caves that have been
> >> >> so badly damaged by cave divers.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am very much looking forward to having that talk about nipple
> >> >> rings, behind the canister D-rings, 380's, D400's, suicide clips
> >> >> etc. just one more time so I am perfectly clear on this subject
> >> >> and then I'd like to take a look at your rig.;))
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 02:20:11
> >> >>  Scott Landon wrote:
> >> >> >when you are even remotely qualified to put my condom catheter
> >> >> on for me,
> >> >> >you can begin to worry about what d-rings i do and do not have.
> >> >> somehow all
> >> >> >of us must have missed your dive resume.  can you send it to us?
> >> >>  when it
> >> >> >has a listing for being a mile back at 285, get back with me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>From: "Terry Michael" <terry-1@ly*.co*>
> >> >> >>Reply-To: terry-1@ly*.co*
> >> >> >>To: terry-1@ly*.co*, "Scott Landon" <js_landon@ho*.co*>
> >> >> >>CC: cavers@cavers.com
> >> >> >>Subject: Stroke alert.
> >> >> >>Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 08:03:45 +0700
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>It takes more then just an equipment modification to cure
> a stroke.
> >But
> >> >> >>it's a start....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Anyway Scott, I heard you had this special little d-ring
> behind your
> >> >> >>canister, does this make you a stroke?
> >> >> >>I suppose you just can't live without it....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>And are you still using the double nipple rings one for the
> >> >> back-up lights
> >> >> >>and one for the stages?
> >> >> >>That was a joke in my opinion.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>and what about all the 380's we are seeing at the back-up
> >> >> position? Is that
> >> >> >>not a stroke second? And who's  using the D400 as a primary?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>--
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:24:30
> >> >> >>  Scott Landon wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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