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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0451D.A385D8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Poucher wrote, "We have put in procedures to prevent a repeat of that situation." Michael, I'm glad to see that somebody is attempting to grab the bull by = the horns (the CDS), but it is the instructor core of the CDS (the = good-ole-boys club) that has incited the whole incident (not George as = you want others to believe). I "WAS" a full cave instructor within your = organization until I found out what the "inside politics" of the CDS = where all about, and that your organization could not, and would not = follow the by-laws drafted for their instructors. So I gave the CDS back = my instructors card in defiance (has anybody ever done that before???). = In my opinion, you guys will do anything to protect each other, and now = have the biggest goat roping (cluster fuck) ever recorded in cave = diving's history. Reluctantly I must say, "Good Luck" to you. Still NSS, but never CDS again, Bruic =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Poucher=20 To: Cavers=20 Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: CDS Reply As Mr. George Irvine points out, the time the CDS Board spent = discussing the WKPP is indeed wasted time. We should be spending our = time talking about making the sport and our organization better. We = should be spending our time giving CDS members a better value for their = dues. We should be talking about how to educate the public on why the = once crystal clear Wakulla Springs is green the majority of the time = from nitrate pollution. We should be talking why the Falmouth-Cathedral = System is in the same condition. We SHOULD be working together to = address some of these issues together, as a united front, rather than = bickering over petty differences and events that are way past. If we = don't, it isn't going to matter much longer, because in 20 years our = springs will be cesspools from pollution and nitrate loading and barely = flowing because development and industry is sucking up the groundwater = and huge pipelines will be draining our rivers to carry water to South = Florida. The CDS Board is considering a request that the NSS review its = endorsement of the WKPP project status because we are tired of the = Director of the WKPP continually attacking our name and reputation. We = have no problem with the WKPP itself. It is indeed a worthwhile and = successful project. We would like to work with the WKPP to further our = mutual goals, but this is impossible with the constant attacks.=20 Wayne Marshall is gone. We have put in procedures to prevent a repeat = of that situation. Checks have to be signed by two Board Members, the = Treasurer and Chairman, and must be written by the Administrative = Manager. We are now in the best financial shape we have been in years = and we have the resources to begin providing real benefits to cave = diving and our membership. We have gone beyond Wayne Marshall and George = needs to get over it as well. Steve Ormeroid did indeed offer to refinance Cow Springs. Our current = mortgage is at 10.25% interest and a balloon payment of $13,000 is due = in February 2002. Steve offered to refinance now at 5.9% or whatever the = minimum IRS-imputed interest rate is at the time of closing. Because = Steve is a Board Member, there is a conflict of interest, but Counsel = advised that the conflict was waivable by the Board. However, after much = discussion and soul-searching, the Board determined that the conflict of = interest was too great and voted not to accept the proposal. It's a dead = issue now. Michael Poucher NSS-CDS Leadership Director =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0451D.A385D8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2722.2800" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Michael Poucher wrote,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>"We have put in procedures to prevent a repeat of = that=20 situation."</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Michael, I'm glad to see that somebody is attempting = to grab=20 the bull by the horns (the CDS), but it is the instructor core of the = CDS (the=20 good-ole-boys club) that has incited the whole incident (not George as = you want=20 others to believe). I "WAS" a full cave instructor within your = organization=20 until I found out what the "inside politics" of the CDS where all about, = and=20 that your organization could not, and would not follow the by-laws = drafted for=20 their instructors. So I gave the CDS back my instructors card in = defiance=20 (has anybody ever done that before???). In my opinion, you guys will do = anything=20 to protect each other, and now have the biggest goat roping = (cluster fuck)=20 ever recorded in cave diving's history. Reluctantly I must say, "Good = Luck" to=20 you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Still NSS, but never CDS again,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bruic </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:mpoucher@at*.ne*" = title=3Dmpoucher@at*.ne*>Michael=20 Poucher</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:cavers@cavers.com"=20 title=3Dcavers@cavers.com>Cavers</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 02, = 2000 9:19=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> CDS Reply</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> <P>As Mr. George Irvine points out, the time the CDS Board spent = discussing=20 the WKPP is indeed wasted time. We should be spending our time talking = about=20 making the sport and our organization better. We should be spending = our time=20 giving CDS members a better value for their dues. We should be talking = about=20 how to educate the public on why the once crystal clear Wakulla = Springs is=20 green the majority of the time from nitrate pollution. We should be = talking=20 why the Falmouth-Cathedral System is in the same condition. We SHOULD = be=20 working together to address some of these issues together, as a united = front,=20 rather than bickering over petty differences and events that are way = past. If=20 we don't, it isn't going to matter much longer, because in 20 years = our=20 springs will be cesspools from pollution and nitrate loading and = barely=20 flowing because development and industry is sucking up the groundwater = and=20 huge pipelines will be draining our rivers to carry water to South=20 Florida.</P> <P>The CDS Board is considering a request that the NSS review its = endorsement=20 of the WKPP project status because we are tired of the Director of the = WKPP=20 continually attacking our name and reputation. We have no problem with = the=20 WKPP itself. It is indeed a worthwhile and successful project. We = would like=20 to work with the WKPP to further our mutual goals, but this is = impossible with=20 the constant attacks. </P> <P>Wayne Marshall is gone. We have put in procedures to prevent a = repeat of=20 that situation. Checks have to be signed by two Board Members, the = Treasurer=20 and Chairman, and must be written by the Administrative Manager. We = are now in=20 the best financial shape we have been in years and we have the = resources to=20 begin providing real benefits to cave diving and our membership. We = have gone=20 beyond Wayne Marshall and George needs to get over it as well.</P> <P>Steve Ormeroid did indeed offer to refinance Cow Springs. Our = current=20 mortgage is at 10.25% interest and a balloon payment of $13,000 is due = in=20 February 2002. Steve offered to refinance now at 5.9% or whatever the = minimum=20 IRS-imputed interest rate is at the time of closing. Because Steve is = a Board=20 Member, there is a conflict of interest, but Counsel advised that the = conflict=20 was waivable by the Board. However, after much discussion and = soul-searching,=20 the Board determined that the conflict of interest was too great and = voted not=20 to accept the proposal. It’s a dead issue now.</P></DIV> <DIV>Michael Poucher</DIV> <DIV>NSS-CDS</DIV> <DIV>Leadership Director</DIV> <DIV></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0451D.A385D8C0--
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