John, In order to become a PADI Cavern instructor (you're right, they don't do cave) the instructor must be already be certified Full Cave. So it's really not a PADI thing. Also, PADI uses the NSS-CDS/NACD Cavern course outline (with their permission). So Tod (hopefully) received the same training he would have received from NSS-CDS or NACD. Correct, it WASN'T GUE. Jack -----Original Message----- From: John E. Ivanic [mailto:ivanic@di*.ne*] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 7:15 PM To: cavers@cavers.com Subject: cave course Tod, don't end up with the short end of the stick, get the proper training for cave diving... what does padi know about cave diving...? "nothing" go to GUE they have an elite team of no nonsence instuctors, also avoid the CDS and the NACD. John
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