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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>,
     "Scott Landon"
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:37:16 -0400
Who was it that carried this 12 year old girl's double 95's to the water at
Little River, her "motha"?  Or was the girl 10? Show me the cavern at little
river ( all 20 feet of it ) and then tell me why the doubles were used for a
"single tank" course, and then the question I really have: Tom, why is it
that whenever real bullshit show up, your name is all over it, and the
Heinerths are right there as well? Why is it that you can give a straight
answer to a question?

I've got news for you , pal. Our sport is not here for you to screw up and
try to extricate a buck out of. You have clowns like Garret Wineberg
teaching open water while on a rebreather, and now this. What next?

10 dives and 12 years old - Bravo, Tom, you've hit a new low.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
To: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE


> Over head environment is not cave it is a single cylinder course and the
> guardians take the course with the student
>
> Tom Mount
> CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
> TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
> Please note my new eMail address
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>
> To: <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
>
>
> > okay, tom, then what the fuck is this from your website.  12 years old
> right
> > there in black and white.  you sound like clinton trying to argue the
> > difference between cavern/wreck penetration and cave diving.  12 year
olds
> > have no business doing anything on scuba other than 30-40 reef dives
with
> > their parents.  you must just enjoy lawsuits.
> >
> > Overhead Environment Diver and EANx Overhead Environment Diver
> >
> > Purpose
> > This Program is designed to develop wreck and cavern diving skills
within
> > the limits of light penetration and to insure that divers are aware of
> > self-responsibility and capable of risk management in overhead
> environments.
> > The Program may be taught using either air or EANx.
> > If combined with the IANTD EANx Diver Program, or if the student is
> already
> > qualified as an IANTD EANx Diver, the student may use a mixture of EANx
in
> > the range of 21% through 40% oxygen.
> > If combined with the IANTD Advanced EANx Diver Program, or if the
student
> is
> > already qualified as an IANTD Advanced EANx Diver, the student may use a
> > mixture of EANx in the range of 21% through 40% oxygen as a dive gas,
and
> > safety or required decompression stops may involve EANx mixtures of up
to
> > 50% oxygen.
> > Prerequisites
> > Must be qualified as an IANTD Advanced Open Water Diver or equivalent.
> > Must provide proof of a minimum of 10 logged dives.
> > Must be a minimum of 15 years of age with a parent or guardian
> > authorization, or a minimum of 12 years of age for Junior Diver
> > qualification, or a minimum of 18 years of age without guardian
approval.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > >Reply-To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > >To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > >CC: <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
> > >Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:28:03 -0400
> > >
> > >IANTD does not have acourse to teach 12 year olds to cave dive
> > >
> > >Cave Diver and Technical Cave Diver
> > >.
> > >B. Prerequisites
> > >1. If entering through modular route, must be qualified as Introductory
> > >Cave
> > >Diver with proof of a minimum of 50 logged dives. If taking the course
on
> a
> > >rebreather must have 35 dives logged on the rebreather
> > >2. To enter Technical Cave (Technical Diver) in addition to #1,must be
> > >qualified as an IANTD EANx or Advanced EANx Diver, or equivalent.
> > >3. Must be a minimum of 18 years of age.
> > >OR, if being accepted in the Program based on equivalent experience:
> > >4. Must be qualified as Advanced Open Water Diver or equivalent.
> > >5. Must provide proof of a minimum of 100 dives.
> > >6. Must be a minimum of 18 years of age.
> > >
> > >Tom Mount
> > >CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
> > >TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
> > >Please note my new eMail address
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > >To: <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > >Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > >Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 6:33 AM
> > >Subject: Fw: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> > > > Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aq*.co*>; Cavers List
> <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 6:55 AM
> > > > Subject: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Tom, somebody has started a rumor that IANTD has a
> > > > > new course which teaches 12 year olds to cave dive.
> > > > > Could you please dispel this before some other
> > > > > idiots out there , like CDS , NACD or TDI,  decide
> > > > > they are "missing a few bucks here"  and decide to
> > > > > do the same thing?
> > > > >
> > > > > You must go crazy with all of the really stupid shit
> > > > > that people attribute to you on these lists - the
> > > > > real story is sick enough by itself.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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