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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>, "MHK" <mhkane@pr*.ne*>
Cc: "List - Technical Diver" <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: Series of recent deaths
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:22:22 -0400
go to http://www.wkpp.org and then "Equipment" and
then the DIR gear config article - it is all there.

The direct url is
http://www.wkpp.org/articles/Gear/newgeorge.html

Try to understand it in its entirety.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>
To: George Irvine <trey@ne*.co*>; MHK
<mhkane@pr*.ne*>
Date: Thursday, August 10, 2000 3:01 PM
Subject: Fw: Series of recent deaths


>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.re*.co*>
>Newsgroups: rec.scuba
>Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 12:00 PM
>Subject: Re: Series of recent deaths
>
>
>> Its going to get worse before it gets better.
>>
>> The more people die, the louder We bitch, and the
harder they argue and
>look
>> elsewhere for a place to put the blame. Disclaimers
keep you out of court,
>> but
>> court isn't the only authority people are going to
have to answer to.
>>
>> I am almost pissed off at Maffatone. What a waste.
Everyone said shit like
>> "Oh, he died doing what he loved." Fuck that
bullshit. He died
>> traumatically, scared and alone. There was nothing
glamorous about his
>> death. He drowned. Its was simply a fucking waste
of a good man, and a
>> veteran. He was not only a feather in the cap of
his friends, he was a
>> feather in the cap of our country. As long as
people accept a *needless*
>> death like this, and justify it because he was
"doing what he loved", more
>> are doomed to follow. Its all in the mindset,
people. I didn't know the
>man,
>> and imagine it would be quite a privilege to have
made his acquaintance.
>> Those of you who did know him, will miss him. Those
of us who didn't know
>> him are glad we don't have the pain you do.
>>
>> And for what? I cant really find any good lesson
from this mans death.
>>
>> People who get pissed about the list "Reasons for
you strokes to shut the
>> fuck up and listen", will have to get used to the
idea of the existence of
>> the list, because it is growing exponentially. Its
continued growth is fed
>> by greed, ego, stupid pride, and politeness.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> "MHK" <mhkane@PR*.NE*> wrote in message
>>
news:8mup78$26n4$1@ne*.ne*.pr*.co*...
>> >
>> > Given that there have been a series of recent
tragedies, I hope everyone
>> > will take an extra minute or so prior to there
next dive and take a look
>> at
>> > there diving..  Hopefully you'll ask yourself, is
there anything I can
>do
>> to
>> > make this dive safer.
>> >
>> > It seems, based upon the accounts that I have
reviewed, that most of
>these
>> > deaths were some experienced divers.  Complacency
kills, and I know we
>> like
>> > to have a bunch of fun on this NG and beat each
other up now and again.
>> But
>> > no matter what side of the DIR coin you side on,
please take a fresh
>look
>> at
>> > your diving and try to remain safe..
>> >
>> > The only remaining contribution these diver's can
leave us with is that
>we
>> > can look at there mistakes and learn from them.
Death is an unfortunate
>> > byproduct of our sport and should be looked at as
a learning tool.  What
>> can
>> > be learned, and how can we avoid it from
happening again..
>> >
>> > My condoleseces to all the families that have
suffered, may they rest in
>> > peace..
>> >
>> > Stay safe....
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>


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