FUCK YOU, YOU GOD DAMN LYING SACK OF SHIT!!!!  I NEVER TOLD ANYONE YOU ARE 
A TDI INSTRUCTOR.  I KNOW GOD DAMN GOOD AND WELL YOU ARE THE WORST FUCKING 
IANTD INSTRUCTOR I HAVE EVER RUN ACROSS!!!  CHRIST ANY IDIOT CAN LOOK THAT 
UP ON THE IANTD WEB SITE!!!

I ALSO NEVER SAID YOU CERTIFIED ROOST YOU DUMB FUCK!!!  WAS I WRONG???  WAS 
HE YOUR STUDENT???  THAT WOULD MAKE TWO CONFIRMED KILLS!!!!  WHO ELSE YOU 
PIECE OF SHIT???  YOU ARE ONE SORRY STUPID SON OF A BITCH!!!


At 02:34 AM 8/9/00 , gzambeck1 wrote:
>Al I found the comments interesting, I can tell how much frustration that 
>is by the
>amount of noise.
>Since your a lawyer, and an ex sergeant.
>I once ask a Nam vet did they ever worry about dying.
>His response was " NO when your dead it's all over, you worry about living 
>with an
>injury ".
>
>So multiple "sports injuries" are acceptable even if it leads to hip bone 
>and joint
>replacement at an early age?
>
>I have one friend who has had this done and, and his diving became much more
>conservative.
>
>As for my students you haven't followed the other thread very well.
>Most are instructors or divers diving air to 150 to 220 ft.
>They don't think much of WKPP or George.
>To quote the last one "shit happens I know that divers die."
>"If you don't want to get hurt, don't get into the water".
>
>Mike Graczyk who was the store manager of Richard's store.
>Brought two more students with him to take trimix classes with him.
>
>I have another instructor in a class right now who knows about Richard, 
>and doesn't
>care.
>I brought the subject up before he signed up for the class and he doesn't 
>care.
>He has been diving air to 170 ft in the St. Lawrence River for years.
>He knows that statically if you dive long enough, you may become injured 
>or die.
>They just look at their own track record and have decided that they are in 
>charge of
>their destiny.
>
>Most of them won't take the time to tell you people.
>They read these news groups and can see there is no discussion going on.
>
>They sit there and read what you people write and can see the mistakes.
>George's
>I'm a 60 yr. old, big time cave diver from Detroit and a TDI Instructor.
>They can see all of his mistakes.
>I'm not 60 and I don't look it.
>If George is from Orlando, I'm from Detroit.
>Then he and Bill spent two weeks telling everyone I'm a TDI instructor.
>They call me and tell me about the latest dumb thin that you people just 
>said on the
>net.
>
>Bill Bott
>I certified Richard after he was in the box, after running off to TN.
>He then counteracted himself in the next statement by saying the Richard 
>was certified
>as a TDI trimix diver in the fall of 97.
>Richard died in the summer of 98.
>Bill then screwed up by bring up the Deep Air plate.
>If Richard could dive to 260 ft on AIR and died while diving on Trimix 
>with an END of
>135 ft.
>Bill just presented a case for diving on deep air as being safer.
>Especially since Richard had more access to Dramamine on the Gunilda then 
>on the
>Doria.
>
>Then Bill really fell on his face with his body count of 5 or 6.
>He was sure of Richard as a TDI trimix diver but could remember the name 
>of a Lake
>Wayzee diver.
>That went over really good since they know that I'm not a TDI Instructor.
>
>Scott McWilliams is another interesting fellow.
>We have a picture of all of the members who were at the dinner table in 
>Rossport after
>the Gunilda dive.
>Two members are missing.
>We also have a video of Richard being moved from the boat to the truck 
>that Charlie
>drove to Thunder Bay.
>There are two other dives voices on the tape and none are slurred from 
>drinking all
>night as Scott states.
>There are no towns people in the video, so how did Richard's moaning wake 
>up half the
>towns people.
>His voice in not even on the tape.
>
>Al as a lawyer for this group, you must teach them to keep there story 
>straight.
>
>Have a nice night Al
>
>I'll check back in a few days
>
>greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Al Marvelli wrote:
>
> > I wonder whats easier to live with, the knowledge your instructor got 
> bent, or the
> > knowledge that your instructor killed a student.
> >
> > Al Marvelli
> >
> > gzambeck1 wrote:
> >
> > > Tyler Moon - 8 time winner of the I want to get bent for George award.
> > > Tell him not boast so much to his students about George not knowing 
> how far to
> > > push the tables.  So he get in young guys and they get bent proving 
> the daily
> > > guess work of George's deco planning.
> > >
> > > Sounds great when you instructor tells you that he go bent.
> > > Loaded his gear and drove himself to the chamber with an O2 reg. in 
> his mouth.
> > >
> > > Have a nice day Allen
> > >
> > > AlanPelstring@ao*.co* wrote:
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 8/8/00 10:42:30 PM, gzambeck1@me*.ne* writes:
> > > >
> > > > >Ok Alan what county was the suit filed in?
> > > > >I would like to read the complaint and the judges reason for 
> dismissing
> > > > >it?
> > > > >
> > > > >All I have is your view point, theirs always two side to the story.
> > > > >
> > > > >Greg Z.
> > > >
> > > > well well well
> > > > zambo
> > > >
> > > > Glad to see you are reading the posts I send out. Now, it seems to 
> me that
> > > > you have failed to answer any, even one, questions that have been 
> put to you.
> > > >
> > > > Answer some of my earlier questions and I will consider yours 
> attempts at
> > > > changing the subject.
> > > >
> > > > your failure to answer the questions leads me to believe the 
> statements made
> > > > against you are true. going on this info I now believe
> > > >
> > > > You did cause through ineptitude the death of one of your students.
> > > >
> > > > this is my opinion based on the fact you have not responded to any 
> of the
> > > > questions put to you
> > > >
> > > > You are quick to try and spread lies, change the subject, or get 
> someone else
> > > > in the light. But it is not working, your considered a stupid lying 
> fool, who
> > > > allowed a student to die while in training.
> > > >
> > > > in addition the the earlier questions, you know - concerning your 
> students
> > > > death, I now have a new one - what was the outcome of the court action
> > > > against you?
> > > >
> > > > now answer the questions puke
> > > >
> > > > Alan Pelstring
> > > > S. Fl.

Bill (aquadart) Bott

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