Mailing List Archive Mailing List Archive
bush, go back to rec.scuba you worthless little troll. SMD >From: Jim Greene <j_greene@pa*.ne*> >To: Timothy.McMahon@us*.go*, diving@mo*.co*, cavers@cavers.com >Subject: Re: One of your users is guilty of fraud,waste and abuse of Gove >rnment property. >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:49:48 -0700 > >And, such use is authorized on the employee's own time, if it doesn't run >counter to the interests of his agency. > >Settle down and tend your own garden. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Timothy.McMahon@US*.GO*> >To: <diving@mo*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 9:53 AM >Subject: RE: One of your users is guilty of fraud,waste and abuse of Gove >rnment property. > > > > Mark Bush, > > This does not rise to the level of fraud, waste or abuse. > > > > tim mcmahon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: diving@mo*.co* [SMTP:diving@mo*.co*] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:49 AM > > > To: webmaster@US*.GO* > > > Cc: Timothy.McMahon@US*.GO* > > > Subject: One of your users is guilty of fraud, waste and abuse of > > > Government property. > > > > > > I received the message below which appears to be sent from a US >Government > > > internet address. The sender, Timothy.McMahon, is accessing a >technical > > > diving chat room using this government address. If this is not in >line > > > with his official duties you should make his direct supervisor and >section > > > supervisor aware of this activity. > > > > > > Mark Bush > > > > > > >From: Timothy.McMahon@US*.GO* > > > >To: diving@mo*.co* > > > >Subject: RE: "SCUBA Fight Club" "Internet Idiots" > > > >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 06:44:49 -0400 > > > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > > > > > > > >Your comments below: > > > > "If you freely advertise your own status as an intolerant, > > > >prejudiced, bigot > > > > on a medium like the internet you have to be AN INTERNET IDIOT > > > >concerning > > > > public etiquette and good manners. You have no credibility. You > > > >waste > > > > bandwidth. You in the diver chat networks and bulletin boards know > > > >who you > > > > are. Do the vast silent majority AND YOURSELVES a great favor. > > > >JOIN US!" > > > > > > > > are clearly an attack and as such you have shown yourself to be "AN > > > >INTERNET IDIOT". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: diving@mo*.co* [SMTP:diving@mo*.co*] > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:31 AM > > > >> To: techdiver@aq*.co*; cavers@cavers.com > > > >> Subject: RE: "SCUBA Fight Club" "Internet Idiots" > > > >> > > > >> I guess that I'm also a charter member of the SCUBA fight club. I >took > > > >> the > > > >> YMCA's eight week survival (SCUBA) course in 1973. The instructor >was > > > ex > > > >> US Navy. There were 16 students who started the course. At 16 >years > > > old > > > >> I > > > >> was the youngest. The oldest student was 24. There was one female > > > >> student > > > >> because her boyfriend was Chris, the son of the owner of Harry's >Dive > > > >> Shop. > > > >> > > > >> We did endless swimming and snorkeling laps of the Olympic pool at >the > > > >> Metarie, Louisiana YMCA. I guess the conditioning lasted all of >two > > > weeks > > > >> after the end of the course. > > > >> > > > >> Yes, the divemasters harrassed us when we were in the water. This >was > > > >> thought to be necessary to "weed out those unfit for diving". It >just > > > >> weeded out those who couldn't tolerate being harrassed. > > > >> > > > >> I remember that four of us at a time jumped into the deep end of >the > > > pool > > > >> and took off all of our gear. We did an unescorted free acsent to >the > > > >> surface while a divemaster stirred up our four sets of dive >equipment > > > on > > > >> the bottom. We had to jump in, go down, sort out our equipment, >and > > > put > > > >> on > > > >> the correct equipment before we could all come up. > > > >> > > > >> I can see the dive industries insurance companies having a >collective > > > >> heart > > > >> attack if we proposed these training standards now. > > > >> > > > >> Of the 16 students only 12 finished the course. For the dropouts >SCUBA > > > >> became "too hard" in reality for the dream that they had nurtured >for > > > >> years. It was really a shame. In today's diver training >environment > > > any > > > >> one of these young, fit, previously enthusiastic drop outs would be >an > > > >> Instructor's dream student who would breeze through a beginner >SCUBA > > > >> course. > > > >> > > > >> Our two checkout dives were on a scrap of coral reef out of Destin, > > > >> Florida. I think we went twice to 95 feet. > > > >> > > > >> In my first 10 dives I don't think we didn't dive any shallower >than >65 > > > >> feet. I know that 6 of the first 10 dives in open ocean were to >90+ > > > feet, > > > >> two were cave dives to 100+ feet and two were nighttime cave dives > > > deeper > > > >> than 60 feet. > > > >> > > > >> We all had a watch, a depth gauge and a copy of the US Navy tables. > > > Some > > > >> of us had pressure gauges, some of us had "J" valves. We had 65 or >72 > > > >> cubic feet of air in steel tanks and we didn't have BCDs. We had >"Mae > > > >> West" vests for emergency surface floatation. We had a lot of fun. >We > > > >> planned our dives and dove the plan. We were divers. > > > >> > > > >> On the boat after my second dive I saw a guy who had been diving > > > without a > > > >> watch, depth gauge or pressure gauge get bent. He had a painful > > > shoulder > > > >> joint hit and right arm paralysis after his second dive. He had a > > > diving > > > >> license and had been trained but he wasn't a diver. HE WAS AN >IDIOT! > > > >> > > > >> Today with scientific training methods, fabulous equipment, >computer > > > >> assistance, and detailed technical knowledge free for the asking, >WE > > > STILL > > > >> HAVE IDIOTS! Don't call them divers no matter what their license >says. > > > >> > > > >> Idiots who dive come from all training environments and all >training > > > >> organizations. Idiots even come from all areas of human endeavor. >If > > > >> idiots choose to exercise their right to ignore the rules when >diving > > > on > > > >> their own, you can't blame the training organization that tried so >hard > > > to > > > >> teach good rules. > > > >> > > > >> Anyone who has been around the world and kept their eyes opened >sees > > > good > > > >> people everywhere and bad people everywhere. Good and bad is a > > > function > > > >> of > > > >> the individual's free choice OR the perception of the observer and >not > > > >> automatically of any race, religion, nationality, government, > > > occupation, > > > >> education or diver training organization. > > > >> > > > >> You seriously damage your own credibility when you PUBLICALLY >attack > > > >> another person who dives (even if they are an idiot) and you render > > > your > > > >> own credibility null and void when you take on an entire diver >training > > > >> organization. > > > >> > > > >> If you freely advertise your own status as an intolerant, >prejudiced, > > > >> bigot > > > >> on a medium like the internet you have to be AN INTERNET IDIOT > > > concerning > > > >> public etiquette and good manners. You have no credibility. You >waste > > > >> bandwidth. You in the diver chat networks and bulletin boards know >who > > > >> you > > > >> are. Do the vast silent majority AND YOURSELVES a great favor. >JOIN > > > US! > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Navigate by Author:
[Previous]
[Next]
[Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject:
[Previous]
[Next]
[Subject Search Index]
[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]
[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]