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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 19:02:31 +1000
From: David Blundell <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*>
To: Jeffrey Swann <swanncruz@ta*.ne*.au*>
CC: techdiver@aq*.co*, HeliumDiver@ao*.co*, JJ@gu*.co*, cavers@cavers.com,
     mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*, trey@ne*.co*, claire@di*.co*
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
Unbelievable.

before you knock He Diver,

What about Dreddyfag.  What's his name.........

Jeffrey Swann wrote:

> Dear Helium Dickhead (Oops, Diver),
> Don't hide behind a BS name.
> Say who you are.
> Do you dive with Helium?
> George answers all posts, and often directly, not on the list.
> Information is always forth coming.
> Jeff the Darwinian.
> At 06:47 10/07/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Idiot, why do I get invited to speak at more
> >conferences and more places than I can physically
> >get to in my lifetime? Answer that  you moron, and
> >use your real name.
> >
> >Your deadbeat reneging friends and their TDI
> >nonsense do not want to be compared to anything that
> >JJ is doing - the contrast is too stark.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: HeliumDiver@ao*.co* <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>
> >To: JJ@gu*.co* <JJ@gu*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
> ><cavers@cavers.com>; techdiver@aq*.co*
> ><techdiver@aq*.co*>; mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*
> ><mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>; trey@ne*.co*
> ><trey@ne*.co*>
> >Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 9:52 PM
> >Subject: RE: OzTek 2000
> >
> >
> >>JJ,
> >>
> >>While I believe that canceling as they did was a
> >shitty thing to do, you
> >>should realize that this kind of thing, however
> >nasty, will continue to
> >>happen to you.  Why?  Because you closely associate
> >yourself with
> >>George Irvine, a man widely despised in diving
> >circles; not for his
> >>message but for his insensitive and nasty delivery.
> >You, by not denouncing
> >>his abusiveness, de facto condone and encourage it
> >and are therefore a party
> >>to it.
> >>
> >>If you don't like being treated badly, perhaps you
> >should see to it that
> >>you don't treat others badly yourself.
> >>
> >>
> >>>With all due respect it is extremely
> >unprofessional and, in my opinion,
> >>>dishonest to contact someone months ahead and over
> >the course of several
> >>>communications requesting they join the show only
> >to cancel two weeks
> >>>before the show. All the excuses as to why this
> >fell apart are actually
> >>>more insulting than the games that came before.
> >Nothing "fell apart" as you
> >>>suggest.  Like most people I hate to waste time
> >but I am more resentful of
> >>>being treated like an idiot. Where you seeing this
> >from my POV you would
> >>>likely agree. The games and dishonesty are the
> >most troubling. Organizers
> >>>get to decide who they invite and I have no
> >problem with that. Deception
> >>>and games are where the irritation lies.
> >>>
> >>>Best wishes,
> >>>JJ
> >>
> >
> >--
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> >

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