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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "gzambeck1" <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>, "Bill Bott" <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>, <techdiver@aq*.co*>
Subject: Re: Scooters
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:55:21 -0400
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Bill, Zambeck has picked up Stone's 1998 drawings of a stolen 1992 =
design. Dumb fucks of feather flock together.

    ----Original Message-----
    From: Bill Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
    To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>
    Cc: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>; techdiver@aq*.co* =
<techdiver@aq*.co*>
    Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:46 AM
    Subject: Re: Scooters
   =20
   =20
    G,
   =20
    I noticed right away that the drawing were of an old model.  At =
LEAST two years old.  But then what do you expect from a Zambeckien =
moron?
   =20
    At 06:38 AM 7/13/00 , Trey wrote:
   =20
        Bill, notice the associations here: Zambeck takes Stone's =
drawings of a scooter stolen from me and puts them in a mail bomb form =
on the list, and then blubbers about changes that he does not =
understand, like Stone did. Neither has a working scooter. Greg is a TDI =
instructor. Greg has a body count. Greg does not like me. Gee, why is =
that?
       =20
        The real deal on the scoters is that Stone's lackey, Jason =
Richards , "borrowed " the scooter form a guy who was staying with Jim =
Wei and made 35 pages of "engineering drawings" while claiming he was =
"trying to work with the WKPP" - a "Stone" cold liar. I have his letter =
to his "team" and his drawings on Cis Lunar letterhead with the dates to =
prove his lies and theft of intellectual property .
       =20
        Now the funny part . The scooter was the second one I ever made =
out of plastic, and was a discontinued model. Casey McKinlay owned it =
and sold it to this guy. It worked fine, but was very crude relative to =
what we have now.
       =20
        We said nothing at the time until Stone built ten copies of this =
relic, and of course, they did not work at all. He is so stupid; he did =
not do the engineering calculations, but merely measured the pieces. he =
could not see how I actually joined them, and did not know that I had =
used the wrong material on the backplate  and nose. I had this material =
laying around and was not planning on that scooter going deep . We used =
it in Manatee. His scooters must have bent like a paper plate at about =
180 feet and jammed the blades - too funny..
       =20
        The real version was not ever shown him and then after I knew he =
had constructed them, I brought the entirely new design, which Zambeck =
has never seen.
       =20
        Zambeck has no clue about scooters of any kind, he does not even =
own one. He is bullshit and a bird of a feather.=20
       =20
        All of the real scooter ownerw out there know that to protect =
the value of their investment, they needed to not show it to Stone. They =
did not. Zambeck and Stone are a fine pair. Liars and idiots .
       =20
        From: Bill Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
        To: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>
        Cc: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>; =
techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>
        Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:59 AM
        Subject: Re: Scooters
       =20
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            He was taking Dramamine you ass hole there were witnesses to =
that.  The family had the toxicology report sealed so all I have is =
witness statements which I have stated many times.  DAN did not even get =
the "TOX" report and they routinely get that information.  The theory is =
valid based on the available evidence.  But why explain that again.  You =
are about the only one who seems to have a problem with it.  Roost died =
when he "fell asleep" at depth, sucked his back gas dry and drown while =
taking a drug that is known to have a sedating effect.
           =20
            But alas, you are again dodging the question.  You give us =
the number Greg.  How many of your students are now dead due to a dive =
related accident?  Tell us Greg what the death count?? =20
           =20
            Then tell me Which number I made up.  Was it "I doubt if he =
was ever deeper than 230" or "probably less than 2%".  But first the =
body count.
           =20
           =20
           =20
            At 11:23 PM 7/12/00 , gzambeck1 wrote:
           =20
                Well billy bot I can see your still mad because your =
Sudafed theory, didn't hold up
                and now your making up numbers.  Just like a DIRT, write =
you opinion and never
                write the truth.
               =20
                Greg Zambeck
               =20
                Bill Bott wrote:
               =20
                > BULLSHIT!!!
                >
                > Roost was recently certified when he boxed!!!  If he =
had 80 trimix dives
                > when he died I'm the best diver that ever lived and =
you are still worst
                > diver I have ever heard of!! And he never faced =
conditions like those on
                > the Doria. EVER!!  320' shit I doubt if he was ever =
deeper than 230' and
                > that was on air.  I still have the picture of his =
license plate.  You know
                > Michigan plate # "DEEP AIR"  The sad part is that a =
few of us who knew
                > Richard was going on the Doria predicted his death on =
THAT trip.  When I
                > got the phone call I was about as surprised as I am =
every morning when the
                > sun rises.
                >
                > Now, you talk about changing the subject.  What is =
your body count up to
                > now you dirt bag piece of shit??  How many of your =
students are now
                > dead??  They did NOT die because "shit happens"!!!  =
They are dead because
                > you don't know HOW to conduct a safe dive let alone =
train others to dive
                > safely.
                >
                > And talk about STUPID.  Not only do you mail bomb the =
list but you do it in
                > a format that probably less than 2% of the list can =
even open!!!  What a
                > DUMB FUCK!!!
                >
                > At 12:48 PM 7/11/00 , you wrote:
                > >BILLY,  I was already in TN when Richard died on the =
Doria.
                > >He had 80 trimix dives to depths of 320 ft before the =
Doria.
                > >Your multiplication is as good as George's.
                > >But then DIRT people always write there opinion and =
never the truth.
                > >
                > >Greg Z.
                > >
                > >Bill Bott wrote:
                > >
                > > > Shit I thought you died!!!  A guy can hope can't =
he?  Tell me Greg how many
                > > > of your students have died in the past two years?? =
 The body count has to
                > > > be up to at least 5 or 6 by now doesn't it?  I =
hear you scared after Roost
                > > > died and moved to Tennessee.  Are you killing =
students there now with poor
                > > > training and a lack of preparation??  Or are you =
doing it with your
                > > > bullshit mods to scooters?  Only a Zambeckian =
moron would take any advice
                > > > from you.  I pray that every member on these lists =
steers well clear of you
                > > > and any advice you give.  You are a DANGER to self =
and OTHERS!!!
                > > >
                > > > At 06:39 PM 7/10/00 , gzambeck1 wrote:
                > > > >Bruce look at the scooters on the WKPP web site.  =
the
                > > > >drawings show their parts and modification I =
would
                > > > >recommend.
                > > > >
                > > > >Greg Z.
                > > > >Just for the record I'm an engineer not an artist =
as GI
                > > > >says.
                > > > >
                > > > >Bruce Stewart wrote:
                > > > >
                > > > > > Hi Greg,
                > > > > >
                > > >
                > > > Bill (aquadart) Bott
                >
                > Bill (aquadart) Bott
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            Bill (aquadart) Bott=20
   =20
    Bill (aquadart) Bott=20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Bill, Zambeck has picked up Stone's =
1998=20
drawings of a stolen 1992 design. Dumb fucks of feather flock=20
together.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Bill Bott <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*">aquadart@ix.netcom.com</A>><BR>=
<B>To:=20
    </B>Trey <<A =
href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*">trey@netdor.com</A>>;=20
    gzambeck1 <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*">gzambeck1@mediaone.net</A>><BR>=
<B>Cc:=20
    </B><A href=3D"mailto:cavers@cavers.com">cavers@cavers.com</A> =
<<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:cavers@cavers.com">cavers@cavers.com</A>>; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aq*.co*">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> =
<<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aq*.co*">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Date:=20
    </B>Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:46 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re:=20
    Scooters<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>G,<BR><BR>I noticed right
away that the =
drawing=20
    were of an old model.  At LEAST two years old.  But then =
what do=20
    you expect from a Zambeckien moron?<BR><BR>At 06:38 AM 7/13/00 , =
Trey=20
    wrote:<BR><FONT size=3D2>
    <BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>Bill, notice the associations here: =
Zambeck=20
        takes Stone's drawings of a scooter stolen from me and puts them =
in a=20
        mail bomb form on the list, and then blubbers about changes that =
he does=20
        not understand, like Stone did. Neither has a working scooter. =
Greg is a=20
        TDI instructor. Greg has a body count. Greg does not like me. =
Gee, why=20
        is that?</FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>The real deal on the =
scoters is that=20
        Stone's lackey, Jason Richards , "borrowed " the =
scooter form=20
        a guy who was staying with Jim Wei and made 35 pages of=20
        "engineering drawings" while claiming he was =
"trying to=20
        work with the WKPP" - a "Stone" cold liar. I have =
his=20
        letter to his "team" and his drawings on Cis Lunar =
letterhead=20
        with the dates to prove his lies and theft of intellectual =
property=20
        .</FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>Now the funny part . The
scooter =
was the=20
        second one I ever made out of plastic, and was a discontinued =
model.=20
        Casey McKinlay owned it and sold it to this guy. It worked fine, =
but was=20
        very crude relative to what we have
now.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>We=20
        said nothing at the time until Stone built ten copies of this =
relic, and=20
        of course, they did not work at all. He is so stupid; he did not =
do the=20
        engineering calculations, but merely measured the pieces. he =
could not=20
        see how I actually joined them, and did not know that I had used =
the=20
        wrong material on the backplate  and nose. I had this =
material=20
        laying around and was not planning on that scooter going deep . =
We used=20
        it in Manatee. His scooters must have bent like a paper plate at =
about=20
        180 feet and jammed the blades - too
funny..</FONT><BR><BR><FONT =

        size=3D2>The real version was not ever shown him and then after =
I knew he=20
        had constructed them, I brought the entirely new design, which =
Zambeck=20
        has never seen.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>Zambeck has no
clue =
about=20
        scooters of any kind, he does not even own one. He is bullshit =
and a=20
        bird of a feather. </FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>All of the
real =
scooter=20
        ownerw out there know that to protect the value of their =
investment,=20
        they needed to not show it to Stone. They did not. Zambeck and =
Stone are=20
        a fine pair. Liars and idiots .</FONT><BR><BR><FONT
face=3Darial =

        size=3D2><B>From: </B>Bill Bott <<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*">aquadart@ix.netcom.com</A>><BR>=
<B>To:=20
        </B>gzambeck1 <<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*">gzambeck1@mediaone.net</A>><BR>=
<B>Cc:=20
        </B><A href=3D"mailto:cavers@cavers.com">cavers@cavers.com</A>
=
<<A=20
        href=3D"mailto:cavers@cavers.com">cavers@cavers.com</A>>; <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aq*.co*">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> <<A =

        =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aq*.co*">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Date:=20
        </B>Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:59 AM<BR><B>Subject:
</B>Re:=20
        Scooters<BR><BR></FONT>
        <BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>He was taking Dramamine you ass =
hole=20
            there were witnesses to that.  The family had the =
toxicology=20
            report sealed so all I have is witness statements which I =
have=20
            stated many times.  DAN did not even get the =
"TOX"=20
            report and they routinely get that information.  The =
theory is=20
            valid based on the available evidence.  But why explain =
that=20
            again.  You are about the <B><U>only</B></U> one
who =
seems to=20
            have a problem with it.  Roost died when he "fell=20
            asleep" at depth, sucked his back gas dry and drown =
while=20
            taking a drug that is known to have a sedating =
effect.<BR><BR>But=20
            alas, you are again dodging the question.  You give us =
the=20
            number Greg.  How many of your students are now dead =
due to a=20
            dive related accident?  Tell us Greg what the death=20
            count??  <BR><BR>Then tell me Which number I made =
up.  Was=20
            it "I <FONT
color=3D#0000ff><B><U>doubt</FONT></B></U> =
if he was=20
            ever deeper than 230" or "<FONT=20
            color=3D#0000ff><B><U>probably</FONT></B></U> less
than=20
            2%".  But first the body
count.<BR><BR><BR><BR>At =
11:23 PM=20
            7/12/00 , gzambeck1 wrote:<BR>
            <BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>Well billy bot I can see your =
still=20
                mad because your Sudafed theory, didn't hold up<BR>and =
now your=20
                making up numbers.  Just like a DIRT, write you =
opinion and=20
                never<BR>write the truth.<BR><BR>Greg =
Zambeck<BR><BR>Bill Bott=20
                wrote:<BR><BR>> BULLSHIT!!!<BR>><BR>>
Roost was =

                recently certified when he boxed!!!  If he had 80 =
trimix=20
                dives<BR>> when he died I'm the best diver that ever =
lived=20
                and you are still worst<BR>> diver I have ever heard =
of!! And=20
                he never faced conditions like those on<BR>> the =
Doria.=20
                EVER!!  320' shit I doubt if he was ever deeper =
than 230'=20
                and<BR>> that was on air.  I still have the =
picture of=20
                his license plate.  You know<BR>> Michigan plate =
#=20
                "DEEP AIR"  The sad part is that a few of =
us who=20
                knew<BR>> Richard was going on the Doria predicted =
his death=20
                on THAT trip.  When I<BR>> got the phone call I =
was=20
                about as surprised as I am every morning when =
the<BR>> sun=20
                rises.<BR>><BR>> Now, you talk about changing the=20
                subject.  What is your body count up to<BR>> now =
you=20
                dirt bag piece of shit??  How many of your students =
are=20
                now<BR>> dead??  They did NOT die because =
"shit=20
                happens"!!!  They are dead because<BR>> you =
don't=20
                know HOW to conduct a safe dive let alone train others =
to=20
                dive<BR>> safely.<BR>><BR>> And talk about=20
                STUPID.  Not only do you mail bomb the list but you =
do it=20
                in<BR>> a format that probably less than 2% of the =
list can=20
                even open!!!  What a<BR>> DUMB =
FUCK!!!<BR>><BR>>=20
                At 12:48 PM 7/11/00 , you wrote:<BR>> =
>BILLY,  I was=20
                already in TN when Richard died on the Doria.<BR>> =
>He had=20
                80 trimix dives to depths of 320 ft before the =
Doria.<BR>>=20
                >Your multiplication is as good as George's.<BR>> =
>But=20
                then DIRT people always write there opinion and never =
the=20
                truth.<BR>> ><BR>> >Greg Z.<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
                >Bill Bott wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > > Shit =
I=20
                thought you died!!!  A guy can hope can't he?  =
Tell me=20
                Greg how many<BR>> > > of your students have =
died in=20
                the past two years??  The body count has to<BR>> =
>=20
                > be up to at least 5 or 6 by now doesn't it?  I =
hear=20
                you scared after Roost<BR>> > > died and moved =
to=20
                Tennessee.  Are you killing students there now with =

                poor<BR>> > > training and a lack of=20
                preparation??  Or are you doing it with =
your<BR>> >=20
                > bullshit mods to scooters?  Only a Zambeckian =
moron=20
                would take any advice<BR>> > > from you.  =
I pray=20
                that every member on these lists steers well clear of=20
                you<BR>> > > and any advice you give.  You =
are a=20
                DANGER to self and OTHERS!!!<BR>> > ><BR>> =
> >=20
                At 06:39 PM 7/10/00 , gzambeck1 wrote:<BR>> > > =

                >Bruce look at the scooters on the WKPP web =
site. =20
                the<BR>> > > >drawings show their parts and=20
                modification I would<BR>> > > =
>recommend.<BR>>=20
                > > ><BR>> > > >Greg Z.<BR>> =
> >=20
                >Just for the record I'm an engineer not an artist as =

                GI<BR>> > > >says.<BR>> > > =
><BR>>=20
                > > >Bruce Stewart wrote:<BR>> > >=20
                ><BR>> > > > > Hi Greg,<BR>> > =
> >=20
                ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Bill (aquadart) =

                Bott<BR>><BR>> Bill (aquadart) =
Bott</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Bill=20
            (aquadart) Bott </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Bill =
(aquadart) Bott=20
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