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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Mcinnis, Don" <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>, <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>,
    
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:47:27 -0400
Don, this liar is full of shit: Gilliam's article
about me in Deeptek is a perfect exempt of "ad hominum
abuse", it is a perfect example of "invective", it is
a perfect example of lying bullshit and hypocrisy.
Gilliam tried calling my boss and quoting fake emails
to him. I had to have my lawyer take care of his fat
slob lying ass. That is an example of what TDI and
Gilliam are all about .

Dead divers families? How about the fact that Rob
Palmer, a person formerly known to revile deep air
diving and said so in his book, "Blue Holes of the
Bahamas", was killed deep air diving with the TDI
morons, including this liar from OZ,  in Egypt? That
is what I called a "stupid fuck". The definition of a
stupid fuck is anyone who gets involved with Gilliam
or TDI , in my opinion.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mcinnis, Don <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>
To: 'HeliumDiver@ao*.co*' <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>;
cobber@ma*.ci*.co*
<cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
Cc: 'techdiver@aq*.co*' <techdiver@aq*.co*>;
'cavers@cavers.com' <cavers@cavers.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: OzTek 2000


><SNIP>
>
>GI and his crowd routinely make similar statements.
They're getting old.  I
>
>can take the heat and so can most of the people who
despise him.  This isn't
>
>an issue of whether or not I can take ad hominem
abuse.  It's about
>business.
> JJ was uninvited to OzTek at least in part due to
GI's attitude and JJ's
>refusal to reprove him.  Associating with someone who
routinely spews
>invective and who, for example, publicly demeans
those who've died in diving
>
>accidents without regard for the families and friends
of the dead will
>always
>be bad business, and this situation with OzTek,
however unfair to JJ, is
>proof of that.
><SNIP>
>
>Death is not polite. In fact it will ruin an
otherwise perfect day diving.
>Calling bullshit on the fact that the person who met
his demise was "trained
>to get killed" by the inferior equipment he was sold
and the inferior skills
>he was taught is the only way to institute any
changes. Shaking your head
>and just saying "that's too bad, it couldn't have
happened to a nicer guy"
>will mean that IT WILL STILL KEEP HAPPENING TO OTHER
NICE GUYS. The dive
>business as usual is what killed them and business as
usual will continue to
>until the industry wakes up and smells the shit.
Polite or not, that is the
>reality.
>
>Don
>
>BTW I have the balls to sign my own name. Too bad
yours were removed by the
>industry a long time ago.
>

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