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From: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:32:15 EDT
Subject: Fwd: OzTek 2000
To: cavers@cavers.com, techdiver@aq*.co*

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From: HeliumDiver@ao*.co*
Full-name: HeliumDiver
Message-ID: <db.6a35e4e.269bb439@ao*.co*>
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:20:25 EDT
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
To: cobber@ma*.ci*.co*
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In a message dated 7/10/00 1:46:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
cobber@ma*.ci*.co* writes:

> I suppose in your little enclave you and your buddies may a problem with
>  George. In the global view George, JJ and with the help of and others who 
do
>  as they say, have forced all the Big Agencies to re-write their training
>  manuals concerning deep air requirements.

This isn't in dispute.  Yet, the fact remains the GI is generally hated by 
most in the diving industry.  Most have no issue with his message, only with 
his delivery.

He frequently states that his goal in being a nasty, insensitive jerk is to 
save lives.  This is laughable considering that most who would otherwise 
listen and perhaps heed his message are turned away by his attitude before 
ever hearing it.  If his goal truly were to save lives, he would change his 
delivery to one of civility wherein he would reach more people.  It seems 
clear that saving lives is not his goal, but rather to aggrandize himself and 
feed his delusion of superiority.

>  And The Big Agencies would never
>  have done this if the public had not demanded it.

The changes effected are good ones, and most people would not argue 
otherwise, but there are civil ways of achieving change.

>  So, Mr. Anonymous Helium dude, If you can't stand the heat, get out of the
>  boiler room.

GI and his crowd routinely make similar statements.  They're getting old.  I 
can take the heat and so can most of the people who despise him.  This isn't 
an issue of whether or not I can take ad hominem abuse.  It's about business. 
 JJ was uninvited to OzTek at least in part due to GI's attitude and JJ's 
refusal to reprove him.  Associating with someone who routinely spews 
invective and who, for example, publicly demeans those who've died in diving 
accidents without regard for the families and friends of the dead will always 
be bad business, and this situation with OzTek, however unfair to JJ, is 
proof of that.

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