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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:11:06 +0900
To: techdiver@aq*.co*
From: Jeffrey Swann <swanncruz@ta*.ne*.au*>
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
Cc: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>, <JJ@gu*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>,
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Dear Helium Dickhead (Oops, Diver),
Don't hide behind a BS name.
Say who you are.
Do you dive with Helium?
George answers all posts, and often directly, not on the list.
Information is always forth coming.
Jeff the Darwinian.
At 06:47 10/07/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Idiot, why do I get invited to speak at more
>conferences and more places than I can physically
>get to in my lifetime? Answer that  you moron, and
>use your real name.
>
>Your deadbeat reneging friends and their TDI
>nonsense do not want to be compared to anything that
>JJ is doing - the contrast is too stark.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HeliumDiver@ao*.co* <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>
>To: JJ@gu*.co* <JJ@gu*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
><cavers@cavers.com>; techdiver@aq*.co*
><techdiver@aq*.co*>; mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*
><mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>; trey@ne*.co*
><trey@ne*.co*>
>Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 9:52 PM
>Subject: RE: OzTek 2000
>
>
>>JJ,
>>
>>While I believe that canceling as they did was a
>shitty thing to do, you
>>should realize that this kind of thing, however
>nasty, will continue to
>>happen to you.  Why?  Because you closely associate
>yourself with
>>George Irvine, a man widely despised in diving
>circles; not for his
>>message but for his insensitive and nasty delivery.
>You, by not denouncing
>>his abusiveness, de facto condone and encourage it
>and are therefore a party
>>to it.
>>
>>If you don't like being treated badly, perhaps you
>should see to it that
>>you don't treat others badly yourself.
>>
>>
>>>With all due respect it is extremely
>unprofessional and, in my opinion,
>>>dishonest to contact someone months ahead and over
>the course of several
>>>communications requesting they join the show only
>to cancel two weeks
>>>before the show. All the excuses as to why this
>fell apart are actually
>>>more insulting than the games that came before.
>Nothing "fell apart" as you
>>>suggest.  Like most people I hate to waste time
>but I am more resentful of
>>>being treated like an idiot. Where you seeing this
>from my POV you would
>>>likely agree. The games and dishonesty are the
>most troubling. Organizers
>>>get to decide who they invite and I have no
>problem with that. Deception
>>>and games are where the irritation lies.
>>>
>>>Best wishes,
>>>JJ
>>
>
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