Dave, get it straight here: WKPP has nothing to do
with travelling dive shows. GUE does. I have nothing
to do with GUE, I am not in the dive business. I do
some speaking, but it has to be a legitimate
gathering, like the one is Sweden, not some training
bullshit or agency crap.

Australia is a great place to visit, but I would not
waste five seconds with a bunch of hard-headed
strokes. You guys want to believe the TDI message,
so have at it and do as you please. I'll come there
and marlin fish with my father who goes every year,
not waste time with diving  idiots.

Information and help is for people who want it, not
necessarily people who so badly need it. Stick with
TDI and Gilliam - a real winner in every respect.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Blundell <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*>
To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@mc*.co*>
Cc: toddleonard@mi*.co*
<toddleonard@mi*.co*>; techdiver@aq*.co*
<techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
<cavers@cavers.com>
Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000


>I love you internet experts.
>
>WKPP here?????
>
>That biggest mouth on the net wouldn't come here,
>
>JJ, well like we all say, it would have been good
to see him, but obviously not
>this time.
>
>Don't come on with the crap about them not wanted
here.
>
>The diving community, Stroke, DIR dickhead or
whoever, wanted to see a range of
>people, not one who bignotes himself on the net.
>
>JJ is more than welcome here.
>
>Brett wasn't even here.  Get your facts right.
>
>The people speaking at the show, "Americans &
Australians" were all
>professional, polite and entertaining.
>
>Not like some we could mention.
>
>to sum up,
>
>Blow it out your Arse!
>
>Jess Armantrout wrote:
>
>> David,
>> Let me just say you are either very naive or an
idiot; probably both.  Not
>> about TDI?  You obviously don't know Gilliam very
well.  Things got rushed?
>> You gotta be kidding me.  If it had been about
things getting rushed, they
>> could have dropped the "Spare Air" booth or the
"Scuda" booth.  Leaving JJ,
>> GUE and the WKPP out of a tech show kind of
defeats the point of having a
>> tech show, now doesn't it?
>>
>> If stories is what you want, Gilliam is your man.
If you want to learn
>> about how to tech dive, well, you really are
going to be wasting your time
>> and money.
>>
>> Trout
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Blundell
[mailto:daveblundell@op*.co*.au*]
>> > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 1:35 AM
>> > To: toddleonard@mi*.co*
>> > Cc: techdiver@aq*.co*; cavers@cavers.com
>> > Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
>> >
>> >
>> > Todd,
>> >
>> > I appreciate your comments.
>> >
>> > It would have been great to hear from JJ.
>> >
>> > Unlike that other dickhead.
>> >
>> > As far as we are all concerned, and I know
Richard is doing something that
>> > no-one else will, is that a show is being put
together for the
>> > divers in Aust.
>> >
>> > Shit happens, this ain't about TDI or who ever,
and frankly we
>> > couldn't give a
>> > stuff.
>> >
>> > Sure maybe things could have been done
differently, but I guess
>> > when you've
>> > got a million things to do and organize at the
last minute
>> > sometimes things
>> > get rushed.
>> >
>> > Richard is a nice guy and friendly at that.  We
go to these shows to see
>> > people like JJ and others, but it ain't the end
of the world if it doesn't
>> > work out.  We are not interested in politics
and bullshit.  Just stories.
>> >
>> > Who cares if people disagree on things, isn't
that a democracy
>> > about,. having
>> > the right to make your own choice.
>> >
>> > We (divers) would like these shows to continue,
so more of you
>> > guys can come
>> > here.  Come to Australia to have fun, to see a
beautiful country,
>> > one the size
>> > of the U.S but with only @ 20 million people in
it.  A contrast
>> > to your home.,
>> > tell us your stories, your experiences and we
share ours.
>> >
>> > Isn't that what this is all about.????????
>> >
>> > Leave all the bullshit and mudslinging to the
telephones.
>> >
>> > That's all us divers here want.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Dave.
>> >
>> > Todd Leonard wrote:
>> >
>> > > David, it's a bad trade... With JJ, you would
have had the
>> > opportunity to
>> > > hear about some truly remarkable diving, and
learn about the impeccable
>> > > technique enabling that diving which can be
applied to the
>> > benefit of all.
>> > >  By blocking him, well, now we all have the
opportunity to hear
>> > and learn
>> > > about the "industry" yet again.  Yawn.  Even
if one were to overlook the
>> > > apparent dishonesty involved in this little
episode, what conclusions
>> > > should be drawn about those who knowingly opt
for such a facade?
>> > >
>> > > What will be learned from BG's "stories"?
Real diving is _so_ much more
>> > > interesting than bombastic tales of foolish
near misses.
>> > >
>> > > Hint: bring lots of beer to the conference --
it's always best
>> > to conceal
>> > > the true source of one's stupor.
>> > >
>> > > - Todd
>> > >
>> > > --- David Blundell
<daveblundell@op*.co*.au*> wrote:
>> > > > Thank you for your comments  Scott.
>> > > >
>> > > > I didn't organize the show, I just pay my
money to go.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyway BG has been around and can tell some
stories,
>> > regardless of what
>> > > > some may thinks.
>> > > >
>> > > > Sure a lot of people would have liked to
seen JJ, but he is not coming
>> > > > unfortunately this time.
>> > > >
>> > > > like I've said time and time again we would
like to see him.
>> > Take it up
>> > > > with
>> > > > TDI if you have a problem with them.  Not
us, we just wanna
>> > see a show.
>> > > >
>> > > > I went to the US, 31 hrs of travelling to
see a show etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > Melbourne, 30 mins from my home.  So as you
can see it is much cheaper
>> > > > for me to stay here and support the shows
here.
>> > > >
>> > > > I hope that all the bullshit stops, the
flaming and so on.
>> > > >
>> > > > The welcome from the divers here is always
open to those overseas.
>> > > >
>> > > > If I organized a show (heaven forbid)  then
maybe different people
>> > > > could, would and might come.  Who knows.
>> > > >
>> > > > Richard has taken the time and effort to do
it when no-one else would.
>> > > > So we
>> > > > want to support him, because otherwise
there would be no
>> > show.  Simple.
>> > > >
>> > > > Is that unreasonable?
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > >
>> > > > Dave.
>> > >
>> > >
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