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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>, <JJ@gu*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>,
     ,
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:43:21 -0400
Oh, too bad. What are diving circles? The circles of
dead TDI instructors ? The circles of deep air
divers? The circles of lame instructors? The circles
of people whose party I am ruining with the facts?

There is no reason to be nice to idiots, and
certainly no reason to even accommodate people who
can not stand up and use their real name.

What you hate is reality - that is me. JJ has been
diving with me for ten years - you deadbeat liars
cancelled him three weeks ago. Your fat slob DTI
boss told me over the phone what the real problem is
years ago when he asked me to shut up about the deep
air diving - he said I would cause you to lose your
insurance. That is my goal - get you guys out of the
game. You can fight me all you want, I will win, and
am winning, big, and I am not even in the business.

-----Original Message-----
From: HeliumDiver@ao*.co* <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>
To: JJ@gu*.co* <JJ@gu*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
<cavers@cavers.com>; techdiver@aq*.co*
<techdiver@aq*.co*>; mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*
<mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>; trey@ne*.co*
<trey@ne*.co*>
Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:16 AM
Subject: RE: OzTek 2000


>JJ,
>
>While I believe that canceling as they did was a
shitty thing to do, you
>should realize that this kind of thing, however
nasty, will continue to
>happen to you.  Why?  Because you closely associate
yourself with
>George Irvine, a man widely despised in diving
circles; not for his
>message but for his insensitive and nasty delivery.
You, by not denouncing
>his abusiveness, de facto condone and encourage it
and are therefore a party
>to it.
>
>If you don't like being treated badly, perhaps you
should see to it that
>you don't treat others badly yourself.
>
>
>>With all due respect it is extremely
unprofessional and, in my opinion,
>>dishonest to contact someone months ahead and over
the course of several
>>communications requesting they join the show only
to cancel two weeks
>>before the show. All the excuses as to why this
fell apart are actually
>>more insulting than the games that came before.
Nothing "fell apart" as you
>>suggest.  Like most people I hate to waste time
but I am more resentful of
>>being treated like an idiot. Where you seeing this
from my POV you would
>>likely agree. The games and dishonesty are the
most troubling. Organizers
>>get to decide who they invite and I have no
problem with that. Deception
>>and games are where the irritation lies.
>>
>>Best wishes,
>>JJ
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