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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:00:04 +1000
From: David Blundell <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*>
To: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
CC: "lcarlson@n-*.co*" <lcarlson@n-*.co*>,
     Techdiver , Cavers
Subject: Re: Smoking and Diving
In Australia we are encouraged via the media to report anybody who flicks a
cigarette out of their car etc.  The fines are @$115.00 Aust and up.  If a lit
cigarette is turfed out the window, during a fire ban season, the fine goes way
up.

The govt would make a lot more money if they gave the person dobbing in the
arsehole a cut of the fine.

Every second arsehole on the road does it here with no regards for the
environment.

We have just recently (about to) ban smoking in all public places like
nightclubs, restaurants, shopping centres etc.

Couldn't have come quicker


Regards

Dave.

Paul Braunbehrens wrote:

> Lance, read my post again.  I think you missed the point 100%.  I am
> not defending any action that infringes on my liberty to breathe
> fresh air, dive in water that doesn't have cigarette butts floating
> in it, or walking around barefoot.  I am simply saying that smoking
> is an addiction and the "why don't they just quit?" attitude is
> bullshit.  It's a lot harder than that.  This does not mean they have
> the right to screw up my environment with their addiction.  It simply
> means that I can understand that it's difficult to quit.
>
> Lance Carlson wrote:
> ~
> >Paul-
> >
> >This shouldn't be a "handicap" issue....poor smoker has nothing better to
> >do than throw his cig butt out in the spring...alas he cannot help himself
> >as he is the victim here.....BS!  So do you care that those heroin addicts
> >chuck their needles in your yard? Or what about all the hospital waste
> >floating up on the shore in NJ?  Yeah, as I get a some used hypodermic
> >puncturing my exposure suit....all I'm thinking is that "gee they just
> >couldn't help themselves, I can relate".  Congrats on quitting, but one
> >man's vice is no excuse for trashing the cave/spring.  I'll go back to my
> >regularly scheduled tree hugging now......
> >
> >Lance
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:  Paul Braunbehrens [SMTP:Bakalite@ba*.co*]
> >Sent:  Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:48 PM
> >To:    lcarlson@n-*.co*; Techdiver; Cavers
> >Subject:       RE: Smoking and Diving
> >
> >I find that a lot of people who work dive boats smoke...the ones with
> >a bit of sense do it while the divers are under water.  The fact is
> >that quitting cigarettes is harder than quitting almost any other
> >drug, including heroin.  I certainly don't condone it, but being an
> >ex-smoker myself, I can understand it.
> >
> >Cheers.
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