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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 06:18:35 -0400
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: jrivers@ta*.rr*.co*
CC: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Bringing a Gun to Knife Fight
We just proved you a fraud and a liar. The thing about you that we all
see is that you have little or no real understanding or factual picture
of anything to do with our organiztion, and every time you open your
misinformed mouth or make one of your mindless threats, we are all
seeing how far off of reality you really are. You forget how may have
come before you with the same agenda, and none of them has done anything
but bring retribution on those they represent. 

So far, Fake One, you have not yet had one single piece of information
or inuendo that was on the money ( forget the psycotic shit, I am
talking about the clear missing of the whole boat that comes out in
every one of your tirades ) . There is no reason for us to tell you what
the truth really is, but it is interesting to see your gooberized
version. Seeing your version tells us where the bullshit is coming from,
and those people will be rewarded by us in kind - we can see clearly who
they are.

I recognize each little comment by you from its original source. For
instance, LLoyd Bailey is the one who came up with the "communist".
Dustin Cleezy is the one who came up with the lazer scope reference.
Some of the other references are more widespread misconceptions , so are
harder to pin down.

The fact is we all know that LLoyd, Dustin, and Ginnie Springs are sore
about Jablonski having a dive shop in High Springs that deals all the
good stuff, and ANYONE can sure understand that. Geez, it does not take
a rocket scientist, or even a "venture capitalist" to see that if one
had the choice of going to a shop full of top divers and pros who had
the best gear avaiable and know how to use it , or to Dustin's little
place or LLoyds garage  , or Ginnie , there is not much of a decison to
make there.

Sure, we all know that everyone in the "business" is sore that Halcyon
can manufacture it own stuff in its Ft Lauderdale factory to the exact
specifications of the best dive team in the world, and the others can
not , and that EE can make what we use as well, and sell all of it
cheaper that the bullshit out there that all of you promote , and that
GUE is the eltite training organiztion and the rest are what they are by
default, but that is no reason to make up a fake account and try to tell
us that these people are "bad" for playiong the game so well and finally
doing what needed to be done in training, diving, gear, and advice.

Look, "Jim", you and the whole "community" can get out your kneepads and
blow me - I have been doing this for too long , too well, and with too
much sucess for you strokes to have any effect on anything I do. All of
you have tried your little hearts out, and here I still am , with more
on my plate than ever, and seeing more of what I want to see happening
in diving. 

Go have another Bill Main Lobster ( that is where some of this shit came
from as well, and his "friends" will not forget it ), and warm up those
kneepads. Tell your pals to expect the best from me.

Liar and a fraud - you are indeed "done" with this list.


jrivers@ta*.rr*.co* wrote:
> 
> Well boys and girls it seems that the GrandDragon did really have me
> unsubscribed. I am awaiting a response from his sidekick Kato the mail
> administrator to find out why.
> 
> It seems that when the heat is in their own kitchen they turn it off as oppose
> to facing it. I am done with this list. However the games have just begun.
> 
> Let's see Mr. Mail Admin, I think you need to address issues with your list
> server..... http://www.orbs.org
> 
> more kung fu to come.....................


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