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From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
To: <cavers@cavers.com>, <techdiver@aq*.co*>,
     "Scott Hunsucker"
Subject: Re: How to shit in the woods
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:49:02 -0700
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Scott,

Your indignation and revulsion are well placed. Many a good dive site =
has been closed by selfish, lazy dickheads. Unfortunately, I don't see =
things changing. People will be what they are, and the many innocents =
will pay for the transgressions of the few losers

Which is why we need to start kicking the shit (play on words intended) =
out of the losers.

If "we" don't clean our house, someone else will.

Scott=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Scott Hunsucker=20
  To: cavers@cavers.com ; techdiver@aq*.co*=20
  Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 3:23 PM
  Subject: How to shit in the woods


  Hello,=20
     Pardon the title, but there is no other way to discuss this issue.  =

     At Jackson Blue this Sat, I found evidence that someone had =
defecated behind the bath house.  I realize that the bathrooms are =
locked and that we have been promised a key on numerous occasions, and =
that this has not happened; but, what I saw was inexcusable.  The =
problem was bad enough when people were just going behind the dumpsters, =
but this is worse.  WE ALMOST LOST ACCESS TO JB BECAUSE OF THE PILES OF =
SHIT BEHIND THE DUMPSTER!  My guess is that when the county finds =
evidence that people are doing this behind the building we will lose =
access to JB.=20
      Have the human decency to go into the woods that surround the =
place, dig a hole at least 12" deep, bury all of your damn waste, and =
preferably do not leave "paper" behind, seal it in a plastic bag and =
dispose of properly. =20
      I have put in four years of effort to open access to JB and to =
keep it open:  I will be beyond pissed if it is lost because someone is =
too damn lazy to take care of business in the woods.  Now that I have =
been kicked out of the NACD and banned from the CDS, I gain nothing from =
my efforts to keep JB open for you; if access is lost I (the "agencies" =
did nothing outside of donating a lock (CDS) to secure access) will not =
pursue it being opened again.  Look around Florida you have lost many =
cave diving sites with many more teetering on the edge, JB is one of =
them.  Act like an adult, treat the area and the locals with the respect =
deserved, and you might be allowed to continue diving.  If "the =
community" can not get its act together the only diving that will be =
done outside of the WKP, is on a keyboard.
  Once again disgusted,
  Scott Hunsucker
  PS for those that do act like an adult, and have offered thanks and =
assistance, your efforts are appreciated; however, we are outnumbered =
and need to act/speak accordingly.=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Scott,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Your indignation and revulsion are well placed. Many =
a good=20
dive site has been closed by selfish, lazy dickheads. Unfortunately, I =
don't see=20
things changing. People will be what they are, and the many innocents =
will pay=20
for the transgressions of the few losers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Which is why we need to start kicking the shit (play =
on words=20
intended) out of the losers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If "we" don't clean our house, someone else =
will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Scott</FONT> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:swhac@pc*.gu*.ne*" =
title=3Dswhac@pc*.gu*.ne*>Scott=20
  Hunsucker</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:cavers@cavers.com"=20
  title=3Dcavers@cavers.com>cavers@cavers.com</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aq*.co*"=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aq*.co*>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 15, 2000
3:23 =
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> How to shit in the =
woods</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello, <BR>   Pardon the title, but
there is =
no other=20
  way to discuss this issue.  <BR>   At Jackson Blue this =
Sat, I=20
  found evidence that someone had defecated behind the bath house.  =
I=20
  realize that the bathrooms are locked and that we have been promised a =
key on=20
  numerous occasions, and that this has not happened; but, what I saw =
was=20
  inexcusable.  The problem was bad enough when people were just =
going=20
  behind the dumpsters, but this is worse.  WE ALMOST LOST ACCESS =
TO JB=20
  BECAUSE OF THE PILES OF SHIT BEHIND THE DUMPSTER!  <B><U>My guess =
is that=20
  when the county finds evidence that people are doing this behind the =
building=20
  we will lose access to JB.</B></U> <BR>    Have the =
human=20
  decency to go into the woods that surround the place, dig a hole at =
least 12"=20
  deep, bury all of your damn waste, and preferably do not leave "paper" =
behind,=20
  seal it in a plastic bag and dispose of properly.  =
<BR>   =20
  I have put in four years of effort to open access to JB and to keep it =

  open:  I will be beyond pissed if it is lost because someone is =
too damn=20
  lazy to take care of business in the woods.  Now that I have been =
kicked=20
  out of the NACD and banned from the CDS, I gain nothing from my =
efforts to=20
  keep JB open for you; if access is lost I (the "agencies" did nothing =
outside=20
  of donating a lock (CDS) to secure access) will not pursue it being =
opened=20
  again.  Look around Florida you have lost many cave diving sites =
with=20
  many more teetering on the edge, JB is one of them.  Act like an =
adult,=20
  treat the area and the locals with the respect deserved, and you might =
be=20
  allowed to continue diving.  If "the community" can not get its =
act=20
  together the only diving that will be done outside of the WKP, is on a =

  keyboard.<BR>Once again disgusted,<BR>Scott Hunsucker<BR>PS for
those =
that do=20
  act like an adult, and have offered thanks and assistance, your =
efforts are=20
  appreciated; however, we are outnumbered and need to act/speak =
accordingly.=20
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