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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 08:29:50 -0400
Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: <trey@ne*.co*>, Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
CC: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>, <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>,
     "'Chris Elmore'" , ,
     ,
Hey, Dell, is it DR or OMS that came up with that manifold with 4 knobs? You
know, 2 on each valve and none on the cross tube. If it was DR, are you
serious about this product? Or was this some kind of joke?

   Jim
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> From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
> Reply-To: trey@ne*.co*
> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:36:34 -0400
> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
> Cc: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>, paul.r.harris@te*.ne*, "'Chris
> Elmore'" <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>, cmilz@Mi*.ED*, techdiver@aq*.co*,
> cavers@cavers.com
> Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
> 
> Dell, you guys should cater to swimmers - that is about the level one
> needs to be at to by some of your crap - totally obvlivious.
> 
> 
> Dell Motes wrote:
>> 
>> Hardly pissed Mike, I answered your question the first time.
>> All parts are based on margins to support our dealers and international
>> distributors. Thats called business. Thats why we have the widely (world
>> wide) established, long lasting network. I don't care if you lack the
>> intellect to understand that, and you can try to twist it up however you
>> please.
>> Besides, what do you care? I thought you were catering to swimmers and not
>> divers?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
>> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; paul.r.harris@te*.ne*
>> <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>; 'Chris Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>;
>> cmilz@Mi*.ED* <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
>> Cc: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
>> <cavers@cavers.com>
>> Date: Thursday, May 11, 2000 8:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
>> 
>>> Ah..... little dell is all pissed and pouty because he can't answer the
>>> question, maybe you should go check with your daddy (lamar).
>>> 
>>> Bruic
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
>>> To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>;
>> 'Chris
>>> Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>; <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
>>> Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 8:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Now I'm a moron ?
>>>> Your a real class act, Bruic.
>>>> You need to go back to scamming college girls into your porn "calendar".
>>>> Yep, a real class guy.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
>>>> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; paul.r.harris@te*.ne*
>>>> <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>; 'Chris Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>;
>>>> cmilz@Mi*.ED* <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
>>>> Cc: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
>>>> <cavers@cavers.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, May 11, 2000 8:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Yea, that is correct, she charged a dollar more for the precision bore
>>>>> glass, now were at $4.00 a tube. "Optically correct"??? What kind of
>> bull
>>>>> shit is this, I don't use them to read with you moron, and it sure as
>>> hell
>>>>> doesn't justify the price reaming your giving your customers on this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bruic
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
>>>>> To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>;
>>>> 'Chris
>>>>> Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>; <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
>>>>> Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 8:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sure Mike, the ones you showed us were not precision bore glass, flame
>>>>>> polished or optically correct. They didn't meet our specs.
>>>>>> You get what you pay for.
>>>>>> ta,ta
>>>>>> Dell Motes
>>>>>> Dive Rite
>>>>>> 117 W.Washington St.
>>>>>> Lake City, Florida 32055
>>>>>> www.dive-rite.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
>>>>>> To: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>; paul.r.harris@te*.ne*
>>>>>> <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>; 'Chris Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>;
>>>>>> cmilz@Mi*.ED* <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
>>>>>> Cc: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com
>>>>>> <cavers@cavers.com>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dell, can you please explain to "all" members of this list why a test
>>>>> tube
>>>>>>> from Dive Right cost around $30.00, when I showed you guys where to
>>> get
>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> custom made for less than $3.00 ea.  That's one hell of a mark-up if
>>> you
>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bruic
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Dell Motes <dell@di*.co*>
>>>>>>> To: <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>; 'Chris Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>;
>>>>>>> <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
>>>>>>> Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:57 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUL canister light / light cord
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Depending on the test tube light design, there are a few ways to
>>>>> prevent
>>>>>>>> lens loss.
>>>>>>>> First, don't lubricate the o-rings, simply wet them (very lightly)
>>>> when
>>>>>>>> installing the lens. Lubrication makes them way too easy to pop off
>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> hot, the pressure pushes them right of the end. The slight moisture
>>>>> will
>>>>>>> dry
>>>>>>>> quickly and never be seen again.
>>>>>>>> Relieving the pressure while pressing the lens in place can be done
>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> couple of ways. If it has an easily loosened compression type
>>> sealing
>>>>>>> gland
>>>>>>>> on the cord, just back off the nut (not the gland itself, use two
>>>>>>> wrenches)
>>>>>>>> and wiggle the cord. This will allow air to escape out around the
>>> cord
>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>> the lens is being pushed on. Once the lens is in place, re-tighten
>>> the
>>>>>> nut
>>>>>>>> on the gland. If the gland is not accessible, (or easily loosened),
>>>> you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> "vacuum seal" the lens in place. Place the head on a flat surface
>>> and
>>>>>> push
>>>>>>>> the lens on till it loosely touches the first o-ring. Now turn the
>>>>> light
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> for a few minutes. This will heat the lens and the head at the same
>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>> Once it is nice and warm, turn the light off and grasp the lens
>> with
>>> a
>>>>>>> towel
>>>>>>>> (or something of that nature) and push the lens in place. Once the
>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>> assembly cools, it will be in a vacuum state. Naturally, the head
>>>>>> material
>>>>>>>> needs to be such that it can be burned for a short time out of the
>>>>> water
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> this "vacuum" method.
>>>>>>>> Aluminum and Delrin will have no problems with this. PVC or others
>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> highly suspect.
>>>>>>>> Any high quality glass lens will have no problems either. The
>>> o-rings
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> stand alot of heat as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You should always pull a test tube style out of it's reflector
>>> before
>>>>>>> using,
>>>>>>>> just to check the seals. The lens can be hit in such a way that it
>>>>> cracks
>>>>>>>> the lens at the base, (where the o-rings are), but still appears to
>>> be
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> fine while still in the reflector because this area is hidden from
>>>>> view.
>>>>>>>> Dell Motes
>>>>>>>> Dive Rite
>>>>>>>> 117 W.Washington St.
>>>>>>>> Lake City, Florida 32055
>>>>>>>> www.dive-rite.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Paul Harris <paul.r.harris@te*.ne*>
>>>>>>>> To: 'Chris Elmore' <ElmoreC@gw*.sc*.ed*>; cmilz@Mi*.ED*
>>>>>> <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
>>>>>>>> Cc: techdiver@aq*.co* <techdiver@aq*.co*>;
>>> cavers@cavers.com
>>>>>>>> <cavers@cavers.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:07 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: AUL canister light / light cord
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure about this as a solution.
>>>>>>>>> Some friends and I were discussing non-wicking wire.
>>>>>>>>> My (humble) opinion is that you need some way of transfering
>>>>>>>>> air from the light head when you push the test tube on otherwise
>>>>>>>>> the positive pressure will push it off.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have noticed that it is much easier to remove or replace the
>>>>>>>>> test tube when the lid is off the cannister.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Claudia,
>>>>>>>>>> When I replaced my electrical cord I peeled the
>>>>>>>>>> insulation back from both ends (after cutting it to the right
>>>>>>>>>> length), put a wad of aquaseal around the wires, then pulled
>>>>>>>>>> the insulation back up. This will keep any water from getting
>>>>>>>>>> through a nick in the insulation and into the canister which
>>>>>>>>>> may be what's happening to yours.
>>>>>>>>>> C.
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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