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Kevin & All, A lot of EE equipment DOES get tested in cold water before release to the general public; and as you said feedback from those who are diving in colder conditions. Dive safe. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> To: jrwaugh@te*.co* <jrwaugh@te*.co*> Cc: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com> Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: Re: another stupid question..LOL >A lot of stuff from the florida manufacturers doesn't get tested in cold >water prior to production. I can think of a half dozen things off the top >of my head that crap out. > >Luckily, with companies like EE and halcyon tho, they listen to our >feedback and improve the product. > >At 05:52 PM 5/8/2000 -0700, you wrote: >>*Our* conditions can shut down the best of equipment quickly! >> >>Date sent: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:00:58 -0700 >>To: cavers@cavers.com >>From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> >>Subject: Re: another stupid question..LOL >> >> > And the caves in mexico are very salty, too. --- >> > >> > But, what I'm saying is it appears to us that in our conditions the >> > E/O connectors have enough voltage fluctuation (even when brand new) >> > to stop the ballast from keeping the arc lit. >> > >> > >> > At 07:56 PM 5/8/2000 -0400, you wrote: >> > >Do the Math! (fresh water has minerals) >> > > >> > >Bruic >> > > >> > >----- Original Message ----- >> > >From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> > >To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*> >> > >Cc: <cavers@cavers.com> >> > >Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 10:53 PM >> > >Subject: Re: another stupid question..LOL >> > > >> > > >> > > > Cold and salt? >> > > > >> > > > At 07:26 PM 5/8/2000 -0400, you wrote: >> > > > >Kevin, I experimented with EO connectors ten years ago for >> > > > >battery stage packs for scooters. The main problem was that if >> > > > >they were not plugged & un-plugged "exactly" straight each and >> > > > >every time from start to finish, >> > >the >> > > > >seal takes a beaten and "will" fail. Trying to accomplish this >> > > > >connection straight each, and "every time" underwater is damn >> > > > >near impossible (Try >> > >to >> > > > >survey a cave without a bubble level). >> > > > > >> > > > >Bruic >> > > > > >> > > > >----- Original Message ----- >> > > > >From: Rich Lesperance <richl@uf*.ed*> >> > > > >To: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> > > > >Cc: <cavers@cavers.com> >> > > > >Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:30 PM >> > > > >Subject: Re: another stupid question..LOL >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Salt and cold. EE Doesn't recommend using them anymore, >> > > > > > > we have >> > >had >> > > > >two >> > > > > > > guys send theirs back already for replacement cords (which >> > > > > > > they did, excellent service) It looks like the salt and >> > > > > > > cold cause a voltage >> > > > >drop, >> > > > > > > and the ballasts are very finicky about that, which causes >> > > > > > > it to >> > >lose >> > > > >the >> > > > > > > arc. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > What about just cold? Say, someone who's in fresh water for >> > > > > > 95% of >> > >their >> > > > > > diving? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Anyone on this list (including those "weenie dive" guys who >> > > > > > just >> > >'fessed >> > > > >up) >> > > > > > have problems with EO connectors in caves? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Main reason for asking, is that I may opt to buy an entire new >> > > > > > light >> > > > >instead >> > > > > > of an upgrade. If the problems with EO connectors are >> > > > > > restricted to >> > >salt >> > > > > > water, than perhaps the upgrade is a decent option. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Rich L >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ---------------------------------- >> > > > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> > > > >> > > > NW Labor Systems, Inc >> > > > http://www.nwls.com >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ---------------------------------- >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------- >> > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> > >> > NW Labor Systems, Inc >> > http://www.nwls.com >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------- >> > > > >---------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > NW Labor Systems, Inc > http://www.nwls.com > > > >---------------------------------- > >
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