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From: "Scott Landon" <js_landon@ho*.co*>
To: trey@ne*.co*, pbeam@to*.co*
Cc: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re:
Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 05:51:08 PDT
of course it is a fake.  these miscreants come out of teh woodwork and work 
overtime to do anything they can to discredit GUE.  i really can't figure it 
out either.  i could not possibly imagine sending a potential dive student 
anywhere but GUE.  i wish they did OW when i got my wife certified.  that 
way i wouldn't have to convince the OW instructor that she should would dive 
the long hose and pass it off.  i wish i had them available when i took cave 
class.  i wasted so much time and money sorting out all of this stuff on my 
own.  my dive buddies and i tried every possible horrible combination of 
gear.  i can at least say that i sold every piece of stroke gear, but i 
wasted a lot of cash.  i only saved one piece as a reminder, my dive rite 
helmet.  maybe i will wear it during the next hurricane that hits the texas 
gulf coast.

i have also heard complaints that GUE is more expensive than other training 
agencies.  my reponse is that you usually get what you pay for.  these guys 
are not a wham, bam, thank you ma'am training organization.  it is the same 
as the difference between using the guy at the driving range to help you fix 
your hook versus using the same guys that the pros use.  look at the amount 
of time that they spend with you.  from my research, it looks like you get 
33% more training time at every level.  there are no 8 day wonders, and no 
"my air is my air" advice.

now let's look at their web page.  somebody please tell me what other 
training orgainization has a web page with all the gear info free for the 
perusing.  i have even gone there to look for stuff.

everyone wants to knock GUE because they don't like george irvine.  well, 
that is pretty stupid.  george is not a GUE instructor or a GUE member.  all 
of you detractors need to see the firest through the trees.  if you can show 
me training organization that is trying to do more to promote safe technical 
diving, i will meet you at macy's.


>From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
>Reply-To: trey@ne*.co*
>To: patty beam <pbeam@to*.co*>
>CC: cavers@cavers.com
>Subject: Re:
>Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 06:47:23 -0400
>
>Well, I guess we have now discoverd that "Patty Beam" is neither a woman
>nor a real name. What is it with you people? Why is it that so many of
>you can not use your real names?
>
>The fact is that if any of you had a leg to stand on to justify what
>goes on out there , you could use your real names to dicsuss it, but
>that is so obviously not the case that even you know it.
>
>The other common bond of the cave "community" is the absolute hypocrisy
>displayed by so many of you. This "Beam" thing is a classic example of
>how bad it is out there.
>
>patty beam wrote:
> >
> > Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 06:13:53 -0400
> > From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
> > Subject: Re: Maddison Blew
> >
> > "Patty", if you can find a better instructor that Jarrod Jablonski, I'll
> > blow you , you fake asshole. GUE fals under the heading of TRACK RECORD
> > of the players. Show me anyone else that matches, and again, I'll blow
> > you.
> >
> > You strokes just don't get it, do you?
> >
> > G U E
> >
> > a n x
> >
> > y d p
> >
> >   e l
> >
> >   r o
> >
> >   w r
> >
> >   a e
> >
> >   t r
> >
> >   e s     :-o ==8
> >
> >   r
>
>

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