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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:19:20 -0400
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Lee and Lucy Gibson <lonestar@al*.ne*>
CC: Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*>, cavers list <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: Decision by the BOD
Lee, have you got anything to say in support of Ted Bundy? He is a good
ole local boy up there? Why not? You support every other asshole, give
us a good word for Ted.


Lee and Lucy Gibson wrote:
> 
> Joel,
> Kind of touchy aren't you?  READ my post.  I accused you of nothing
inappropriate.
> I had heard of the loss of a computer system by the CDS and noticed that it
was not
> included in your "needs to be accounted for" list.  So I added it.
> Now reel your waggling tongue back in before you step on it again.
> Lee
> 
> Joel Markwell wrote:
> 
> > on 4/19/00 8:13 PM, Lee and Lucy Gibson at lonestar@al*.ne* wrote:
> >
> > > How about including the Mac computer that was purchased by the CDS for a
past-
> > > publisher that was never returned in that audit..
> >
> > Lee,
> >
> > Where the hell do you get this shit? You are so good at being WRONG!
> >
> > I was not given one penny for the computer that I bought when asked to edit
> > UWS. I spent $2100 on my Power Computing Macintosh clone, which I still
> > have, and $785 on a MAG Innovision 17" display. Why I spent that money when
> > I didn't need the computer for work at that time I'll never know.
> >
> > I also spent over $300 of my own money Fed Exing, mailing, copying, getting
> > photographs burned onto CD, buying paper, software and so on. The CDS DID
> > buy a laser printer, which Beth Somers has (the current editor). If anyone
> > owes ANYONE money, it's the BOD that owes me, I'm out cash, not the
> > membership (it is their money, BTW). At the time I was so disgusted with the
> > whole array of bozos that I never pursued it, I collected together the
> > receipts then said, "screw it!" I believe that I was reimbursed some money
> > on a scanner early on, but my cash outlays far exceeded that small amount.
> >
> > I'll pose for an audit ANY DAY, dipshit, where my tortured tenure as editor
> > is concerned. That I FAILED as editor, I take ultimate responsibility for,
> > but the money is a non-issue and that anyone thinks otherwise is a testament
> > to what an inbred, gossipy nest of snakes occupies the inner recesses of
> > some of the darker holes of the CDS.
> >
> > When I took over as editor I was promised that my ONLY job would be to edit
> > the newsletter. I was promised a liason to the Board, someone to acquire the
> > articles (so that I could focus on the lay-up), someone to sell the
> > advertising, someone to do the Member's Manual and the CDS printer assured
> > me she understood and could do digital.
> >
> > NONE of the above happened--EVER. NOT ONE PERSON DID THEIR JOB--not even a
> > small part of it! The liason disappeared until the shit hit the fan and then
> > surfaced in the 10th inning. NO--ZERO articles were ever provided by Mr.
> > Article Wrangler. NO--ZERO ads were sold by the ad man, I arranged for them
> > and in some cases even created them. The printer didn't know DICK about
> > digital publishing and was a hindrance, not a help. At one point they had an
> > issue of UWS in their hands for two months before printing it. The Member's
> > Manual was unceremoniously dumped in my lap a couple of weeks (?) after I
> > started. When I got the member's list it was completely out of date and
> > inaccurate, in fact it took the Board's gopher three attempts and three
> > weeks to send me one that wasn't off by 400 members. I was forced to update
> > the lists myself and that took over a month (that list that I updated was
> > eventually used to set up the member's list on the website). Robert Laird
> > was the only person who did and still does his job, although to be fair, the
> > editor of another dive mag was good enough to offer to help with scanning
> > slides etc. I think two other members volunteered as time wore on for
> > proofreading, etc.
> >
> > Don't get me started on this . . . .
> >
> > The current Editor, Beth Somers has done a superb job. She managed to
> > HERSELF find the help she needed to get the job done and succeeded where I
> > failed. She and I have remained friends. But I will never be ashamed of the
> > fact that I made a sincere effort and put several hundred hours of effort
> > and many dollars into volunteering there and elsewhere. I know that the
> > hardest job in the CDS is Editor, as I suspect is the case at the NACD. For
> > those of you who read the newsletters and enjoy them, take the time to thank
> > them because they rarely get thanks for what they do.
> >
> > Lee, you are truly a totally classless act and CLEARLY a moron. You must
> > surely have to have the word "BREATHE" taped to the inside of your dive mask
> > or else you'd be taking the big dirt nap right now.
> >
> > Try not to speak.
> >
> > JoeL


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