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At 06:49 AM 4/14/2000 -0700, Kevin Connell wrote: >Todd, you can't "say goodbye to economics" . There is this thing called >scarcity. We all contend for pieces of the same pie. You CANNOT simply >"change the price structure". Hello again. We also don't "drive out" >people. They do things on their own recognizance based on what they know. Yep , eventualy they fuck up up some where and go out.Part of the problem is too many take it as a hobbie type thing , and not so much as a professional. When I took a padi wreck course the instructer had HIS own requirments , as he felt that what padi asked for was below minimal. So we did more dives and couse work than was required. >Yes, creating the market for good instruction is what we are trying to do >here, no doubt. I totally agree. > >But what you are saying is completely bogus about fixing prices and driving >out consumers. Would you pay a golf pro $125.00/hr if he was a complete >idiot and did absolutely no golfing (was infact, not a pro)? Nope, me >neither, but I've paid a couple of crappy dive instructors $50/day for >"Technical" training before learning about JJ. As the man says "Discounted >training is not a good value". > >Did you take economics at lewis and clark, or reed? :-) > >At 06:28 AM 4/14/2000 -0700, Todd Baldi wrote: >>I minored in economics in college thank you. The >>diving industry said goodbye to economics a long time >>ago. As I stated in my other post there has been no >>increase in pricing structure in the past 50 years. >>Inflation took the profit margin out 49 years ago. How >>can a golf pro charge $125 for an hour and a scuba >>insrtuctor only make $40 per student for a 5 week >>course (48 hours of work approx). So lets say you have >>8 students. You make $6.67 an hour before tax. No >>wonder all the smart people leave the diving industry. >> >> >>If you have ever been in a high class dive shop (and >>there are a lot out there) you will see them charge a >>hefty profit margin, cater to their clientele, and >>make some money in this industry. So we drive out the >>people who want to clean their boat bottoms and >>recieve $99 courses, big deal. How much does the >>average tech diver spend on equipment to get set up. I >>would guess $5,000 - $10,000 on total equipment. >>Paying an extra $100 or $200 is inconsequential for >>better instruction. >> >>TB >> >>--- Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> wrote: >> > You can't CHANGE the pricing structure, it is the >> > result of a formula >> > called SUPPLY AND DEMAND. >> > >> > If you want to try reeducating the consumers so that >> > there is *NO* demand >> > for poor instruction than so be it. But don't go >> > around suggesting you can >> > fix prices. You can't. Say hello to economics >> > (also known as human nature) >> > >> > >> > At 06:42 AM 4/13/2000 -0700, you wrote: >> > >I agree completely. If the diving industry ever got >> > a >> > >leader and changed tack we could get some quality >> > >instructors out there. That is only if they changed >> > >the pricing structure around and added a lot of >> > >professionalism to it. I knew of a dive shop in >> > >Beverley Hills that was catering to the rich folk >> > up >> > >there. They charge $5,000 for lessons. You could >> > put >> > >as many people as you wanted in it. They had an >> > >Instructor (not assistant, an instructor) for every >> > >student. They did only boat dives, dove DUI dry >> > >suits, carried the gear, washed it for the people, >> > and >> > >made it as easy as possible. You know what? They >> > made >> > >so much money that they closed the shop down >> > because >> > >they didn't need the overhead and now just teach >> > >privately to the rich and famous. >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------- >> > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> > >> > NW Labor Systems, Inc >> > http://www.nwls.com >> > >> > Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. >> > (plurality should not be posited without >> > necessity - Occam's razor) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------- >> > >> > >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. >>http://invites.yahoo.com > > >---------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > NW Labor Systems, Inc > http://www.nwls.com > > *I* moved your cheese. > > >---------------------------------- > >
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