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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:35:24 -0400
To: cavers@cavers.com
From: Jason Richards <rchrds@wc*.ne*>
Subject: recreational activity vs human relationships
>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:03:27 -0400
>To: cavers@cavers.com
>From: Jason Richards <rchrds@wc*.ne*>
>Subject: recreational activity vs human relationships
>
>>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:01:43 -0400
>>To: cavers@cavers.com
>>From: Jason Richards <rchrds@wc*.ne*>
>>Subject: recreational activity vs human relationships
>>Cc: Christina Jett, Texas Cave Mail
>>In-Reply-To: <b2.3c52265.2626c011@ao*.co*>
>>
>> >chipthorp@ju*.co* writes:
>>
>>>> ... I figured to become the diver that I am today I must take my dive 
>>>>training into my own hands . this includes lifestyle changes .
>>
>>>ScottBonis@ao*.co* replied:
>>
>>>Chip, you will probably never understand what I am about to say, but I
really 
>>>feel sorry for you.  When you start thinking that a recreational activity, 
>>>any recreational activity, is so important to your life that you're
willing 
>>>to sacrifice intimate human relationships, then perhaps you ought to 
>>>reevaluate your priorities.
>>
>>and I spewed:
>>
>>HAhahahahah... never fear chip! (and I know this isisnt what you were
intending, this is for scott)
>>
>>There are plenty of people who take their recreational activities to be
important
>>enough to radically alter their lifestyles or get rid of lecherous
time-stealing
>>hangers-on (aka significant others). I am not alone when I say that I am
perfectly
>>willing to live in my van for a month or two so that I can save enough
money to go to Mexico for some multi-month expedition, I have no problem
taking a semester off school (or lots of them, as the case may be) so that
I can participate in some caving event... Try keeping a girlfriend when you
refuse to spend "quality time" because you would rather spend your spare
weekends and evenings underground amidst the stench of carbide and bat
guano, or hanging out doing multiple hours of decompression for some dark
water cave that they dont even want to snorkel on the surface water of...
Take her to the movies or dinner some evening? Na- forget it.. too much
number crunching from the last survey or for the next map, and besides, I
gotta fix this scooter or that light tonight, and hey, what about that LED
light that has to be built? no time for personal time.
>>Of course the answer would be "just find a woman who is a caver, then
they can go along!" yes, what a good answer. But it doesnt work. The number
of female cavers is rather limited, and the number of female cave divers is
EXTREMELY limited (Ted Cole got lucky) (watch out Dawn Kernagis) and they
dont work out in the end.. if they are real cavers that means the're as
hard headed as you are, and that doesnt make for a whole lot of
relationship flexibility... hehehe...
>>
>>Anyway, Scott,  If you arent willing live the lifestyle your
"recreational activity" requires, than your probably just in for the short
haul, so just sell your gear now to the next new guy :)
>>
>>P.S.- Dont think that this view only applies to guys either.. I know some
classic examples of women like this also....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Jason Richards
NSS-CDS 41539

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