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Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 11:10:57 +0000
To: "Ingemar Lundgren" <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>,
     "Mike Bruic" ,
From: Samy Elashmawy <samelash@ix*.ne*.co*>
Subject: Re: SV: Rennaker Poll
Not another patch / c card for them to pin in your book. Sit throgh a
slide show and get a c card with 4 dives thing. What ever happened to
mentorship ? I joined a dive club just find people who dive and see what
kind of diveing there was out of NYC. I cant imagine the "scuba network"
offering tech cources ? Most instructers are the padi varariety and turn
there noses at doubles , go tinkering arounf with a pony and think there
doing tech. Its surprising how far they go with just an al 30 pony.  I
may get you out of a wreck , but you will blow off any deco , and may
very likely do a screaming accent once the pony goes empty. Most just do
not think things through delibratly and thuroughly , and then they
blindly go buy the small stuff.


Like trey said , some times its not the number of dives , or how long
youve been diving , but the quality of the diving. Remember the dive mate
that went into a room on the san Diego got turned around , couldent find
the doo , as there was a bulkhead and cul sac . Had only a pony and did
not run a line. Then you got the guys who just inconsideratly cut lines ,
wiht out checking if there some one on the end of the line.


Padi is just way to comercialized , noui is better , in that there
program requires more cource work. Instruction up hear is a real game of
russion ruellette , Each one has his own style , and has there own "multi
level" hoops to go through for half a dozen cources , and that deos not
include boat fees.



At 06:21 PM 4/8/2000 +0200, Ingemar Lundgren wrote:=20

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><smaller>No
people with bad health condition should not be allowed to teach!  That
should be obvious to any agency. =20

I=B4m not surprised though that NSS has instructors like Renneker. The
quality of the instructors are getting worse every year much due to the
different agencies trying to compete with the largest nr of instructors.
Things are going to get even worse when PADI starts teaching tech diving.
 It=B4s a scary thought.=20

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<bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,
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igger><bigger><bigger>>PADI
Heads Into Technical
Diving</bigger></bigger></bigger></color></fontfamily></bold>&
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</fontfamily></bigger><fontfamily><param>Arial</param>PADI
announces its
plans to unveil the new PADI TecRec program later this year. The TecRec
program, which will offer training for diving beyond the conventional
limits of recreational diving, answers the growing call from PADI
Instructors for a valid, professionally designed instructional system in
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</bigger></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param>"TecRec
will appeal
to divers interested in venturing beyond recreational limits," says Karl
Shreeves, Vice President of Technical Development for Diving Science and
Technology (DSAT), PADI's instructional product development corporate
affiliate. "It gives PADI Instructors a way to meet this interest with a
program grounded in state-of-the-art instructional design."

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</bigger></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Initial
TecRec
offerings planned include courses in deep diving and specialized
activities, with ties to PADI recreational specialty courses that already
exist. Shreeves says the courses' design will help safely bridge the gap
between recreational diving experience and the demands of technical
diving. It will also streamline the technical training process. "Sound
instructional design eliminates inefficiencies, reinforces and confirms
critical skills, and streamlines the learning/teaching processes." says
Shreeves, "So PADI Instructors can expect TecRec to differ substantially
from the tech courses out there now."

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</bigger></fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Arial</param>With TecRec
programs currently in initial development, PADI plans to offer a
first-look at TecRec course materials at PADI Member Conference 2000 in
Turks and Caicos at the end of October, with a major roll-out at the DEMA
Show 2001 in New Orleans, LA, USA, next January.

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meddelande-----

<bold>Fr=E5n:</bold> Mike Bruic [mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*]

<bold>Skickat:</bold> den 7 april 2000 00:38

<bold>Till:</bold> cavers@cavers.com

<bold>=C4mne:</bold> Rennaker Poll


</smaller></fontfamily> I have a simple question for "all" the members of
this list. Would you, or would you not let someone who is obese, had a
heart attack and/or stroke take a child or loved one of yours into a cave
for instruction? All that is needed in your reply is a "yes" or "no".
Please feel free however to make any other comments for or against that
you wish too.

 =20

 Bruic=20

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