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From: <RDecker388@ao*.co*>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:11:46 EDT
Subject: Re: NSS/CDS and Other Clown Agencies
To: cavers@cavers.com

Brock,

        Mr. Bruic's response to my observation was a simple one, "it's the 
little guy that voted these clowns and jesters of the highest court into 
office, and only they can remove them."  One of the problem's with this 
perspective is there's a heck of a lot of cave divers out there, bearing 
cards issued by these organizations, that are not polically active nor voting 
members of any of these entities.  Others who are members are not active 
enough to know the "players" and either refrain from casting their votes on 
this basis or take blind guesses based on the limited information provided 
them before an election.  

    I've always been of the opinion that a good instructor will provide good 
instruction in spite or what agency he or she might be affiliated with.  I've 
also notice that many good divers will progress into great divers despite who 
did their initial training.  Based on that perspective if it were my property 
I'd be more inclined to refuse cards from certain instructors rather than 
entire agencies.  However, in the long run, whether right or wrong... good or 
bad, as long as it's his property he may do with it as he pleases.  There's 
no room for arguement there, nor reason to disrespect that right.

    As for you quandry, it's only one cave, there are others.  If you've done 
your research and settled upon an instructor you feel comfortable with stick 
with him.  Frankly I've never gotten around to a dive at Madison Blue, 
haven't lost a minute's sleep over that fact and I'm sure I won't lose any in 
the future if the situation remains the same.


Regards,

Bob D.


In a message dated 4/6/00 8:53:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Bfrede1615@em*.ms*.co* writes:

<< It leaves me in a quandry. I'm slated to study cave with Jason
 Wiesacosky in the fall. Where does this leave us? Jason is highly thought
 of. In fact I reseached and approached him after receiving glowing reports
 from G-III and Jim Cobb. I feel very fortunate be accepted. But now doors
 are being slammed shut in me and my friends faces. As you said it's us
 little guys that are being punished.
 thanks for your concern
 Dive safe
 Brock Frederickson >>

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