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From: "ALEXANDER MELLER" <seacave@vo*.co*>
To: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>
Cc: "BILL KRIMMEL" <bill@ev*.co*>, "cavers" <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: NSS/CDS and other Clown Agencies
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:52:59 -0400
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Mike
 I take a group of cave divers down from Pennsylvania to Florida 4 to 5 =
times a year. They have been trained by one of the best cave instructors =
in Florida and are certified NSS-CDS. In the last three years, I have =
not visited your place for one reason or another(floods, students in =
classes) In selling my trips, I speak of how beautiful your place is and =
how great the cave system is at Madison Blue. we are coming down again =
in April with the intention to visit Madison.=20
    I cannot speak on the issues you have against the training agencies =
or thier instructors and directors. I do not want to be involved in such =
politics. I disagree with you on "GUE" being the only agency to dive at =
your place. What if the Cayman's only allowed PADI divers in and Cozumel =
only SSI divers.
    I was trained to cave dive by the NSS-CDS when there was no GUE and =
no George. I feel I have evolved to become a top notch cave diver over =
the years. I subscibe to the "DIR" method of gear configeration and have =
the feelings most of the Wkpp have on team work, buddy system, personal =
preference gear, etc. But I do not need "GUE to sanction me. I cannot =
devote the time to work with the WKPP although I admire their =
acomplishments would like to be a team player.
    Because you own Madison, I guess you have a right say who comes and =
goes. I do not think you could survive at the gates(income) if only Gue =
people would be admitted. Based on what I've seen over the last three =
years, I do see most people flocking to GUE to be trained. This is just =
my observation from being down the Florida caves a month or so out of =
the year. It would be a real shame if you had to lose Madison for lack =
of profits to be turned over to someone else who would give two shits =
about the cave envoirment or the beauty of Madison.=20
    Just a thought but if your worried about the level of training =
coming to Madison, why don't you do guided dives or have some type of =
chekout skills prior to entering your cave system. And just another =
thought, Instead of renouncing the CDS, why don't you and some of the =
GUE/CDS instructor get rid of the people running the NSS and help mold =
it to take the shape you are after. I am not an authority on Cave =
instruction although I am an scuba instructor.=20
    I would really like to visit Madison without the GUE involvement. I =
hope you reconsider. Thank you for your time.
Respectfully
Alex Meller
seacave@vo*.co*

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I take a group of cave divers down from =
Pennsylvania to=20
Florida 4 to 5 times a year. They have been trained by one of the best =
cave=20
instructors in Florida and are certified NSS-CDS. In the last three =
years, I=20
have not visited your place for one reason or another(floods, students =
in=20
classes) In selling my trips, I speak of how beautiful your place is and =
how=20
great the cave system is at Madison Blue. we are coming down again in =
April with=20
the intention to visit Madison. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>    I cannot speak on the issues you =
have=20
against the training agencies or thier instructors and directors. I =
do not=20
want to be involved in such politics. I disagree with you on "GUE" being =
the=20
only agency to dive at your place. What if the Cayman's only allowed =
PADI divers=20
in and Cozumel only SSI divers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>    I was trained to cave dive by the =
NSS-CDS=20
when there was no GUE and no George. I feel I have evolved to become a =
top notch=20
cave diver over the years. I subscibe to the "DIR" method of gear=20
configeration and have the feelings most of the Wkpp have =
on team=20
work, buddy system, personal preference gear, etc. But I do not need =
"GUE to=20
sanction me. I cannot devote the time to work with the WKPP although I =
admire=20
their acomplishments would like to be a team player.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>    Because you own Madison, I guess =
you have a=20
right say who comes and goes. I do not think you could survive at the=20
gates(income) if only Gue people would be admitted. Based on what I've =
seen over=20
the last three years, I do see most people flocking to GUE to be =
trained. This=20
is just my observation from being down the Florida caves a month or so =
out of=20
the year. It would be a real shame if you had to lose Madison for lack =
of=20
profits to be turned over to someone else who would give two shits about =
the=20
cave envoirment or the beauty of Madison. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>    Just a thought but if your =
worried about=20
the level of training coming to Madison, why don't you do guided dives =
or have=20
some type of chekout skills prior to entering your cave system. And just =
another=20
thought, Instead of renouncing the CDS, why don't you and some of the =
GUE/CDS=20
instructor get rid of the people running the NSS and help mold it to =
take the=20
shape you are after. I am not an authority on Cave instruction although =
I am an=20
scuba instructor. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>    I would really like to visit =
Madison=20
without the GUE involvement. I hope you reconsider. Thank you for your=20
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Respectfully</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Alex Meller</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:seacave@vo*.co*">seacave@voicenet.com</A></FONT></DIV=
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