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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:39:06 -0400
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Lee and Lucy Gibson <lonestar@al*.ne*>
CC: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>, cavers list <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: NSS/CDS and other Clown Agencies
Lee, has anyone cleared Rennaker of Farm Animal Stupidity? Has any
doctor said that being  Huge Fat Slob is a healthy thing, or that this
particlular fat slob is now not at risk of having anothere heart attack
at his age and in his physical condition?

Give me a break. You can not fool anyone with any common sense with this
bs.

The fact is , Bruic is right nad has the balls to stand up for what is
right, while the rest of you are perpetuating the bullshit.

Lee and Lucy Gibson wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> Are you serious?  You will no longer recognize cave certifications from
> NACD, NSS/CDS, CMOS, or IANTD at Madison Blue....you will only accept
> GUE cards.  Please verify this position.
> Also I guess Madison is still closed due to the river level.  Do you
> still project reopening to diving on April 15th?
> I don't know the details of you beef with the NSS/CDS or Bill Rennaker.
> But wasn't Bill cleared to dive by his cardiologist, Dr J. Omeara, after
> a cardiac catherization with stents which removed the only three
> occluded areas that put him at risk for a heart attack?
> Lee
> 
> Mike Bruic wrote:
> 
> > Due too the pathetic and sad state of affairs within the NSS/CDS, I am
> > resigning my status as a active cave diving instructor and as a member
> > of the NSS/CDS effective immediately (this means I can speak up). I
> > will NOT have my name associated with any organization that in my
> > opinion knowingly, and freely jeopardizes their students lives with
> > instructor(s) that have had heart problems and/or surgery for this
> > (the cds has three (3) of them, and all three are obese). A student
> > in-trust his or her life with their instructor, and instructors with
> > such a medical history are not a acceptable risk in cave diving
> > instruction in my opinion. I will not have their blood (mainly their
> > students) on my hands, nor in anyway support any such agencies that
> > indorse these walking time bombs. This also includes the NACD and
> > IANTD.  Let me enlighten this list about just one of these
> > instructors. His name is Bill Rennaker, he likes to tell everyone that
> > he is a sidemount diver. The fact is that he is so fat and obese that
> > he needs sidemounts to fit his big ass into a cave that most of us can
> > get into with back gas and double stage bottles. All he ever does, and
> > has done as a cave diver is run his big mouth about shit he knows
> > nothing about (mainly cave diving).  Potato chips, Twinkies, Chilly
> > Dogs and Soda pop are his only proven area of knowledge, we all know
> > this, and he wonders why he had a stroke and/or heart attack (Yes, he
> > is that stupid). But what really scares me is that is one of the
> > NSS/CDS's prize instructors, and they will defend this Sea Cow at any
> > and all cost, apparently even if it involves innocent students. If any
> > of you on this list have enemies out there, send them to any of the
> > above listed agencies, if they are friends, send them to GUE. These
> > are the only people in the game that have a clue as to what the hell
> > is going on in cave diving, and there accomplishments prove it. Also,
> > GUE cards are now the only ones that will be excepted at Madison Blue
> > Springs from this day forward for cave diving. Bruic


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