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bill, you will never have a clue. an entry level cave diver made a huge mistake, paid for it with his life, and you choose to use it as a medium to attack the wkpp and gue. you need to look at the track record of the wkpp and take a look at what gue is trying to do to take our dive philosophy into technical training. you, like others, like to sit at home and fire away at george and the wkpp and now even gue, halcyon and DIR. as hard as it may be for you to believe, george is almost 50 and is in better shape than 99% of the people on this list, actually does know of what he speaks, and can do these dives. for all of you that think he is a farce, you need to show at wakulla with some cotton and see for yourself. the wkpp has an extensive mentorship program that allows us to take new cave divers on a regular basis and turn them into exceptional cave divers. no where else will you see this type of program. our new guys do not wander off to the well casing at little river after they finish intro certification. they check in with their wkpp mentor before their dives and make sure they have a rock solid plan that is commensurate with their skill level and has the adequate safety factors. i have several divers within the wkpp that i work with, and all are turning into fine divers. i will put any of them up against 99% of what i see out there. just look at our track record. i believe it speaks for itself. nobody dead. nobody toxed. we just keep setting records and doing 300 foot dives weekend after weekend. and we do this with regular divers that want to be better divers. bill, have you been to the gue web site? i have never seen so much excellent and free information on gear rigging ever. it is complete with pictures and descriptions. do you think gue makes money off of that? of course not. jarrod pays an employee to keep up those pages. i just wish i had all that information 9 years ago when i started cave diving. why don't you tell us about all the contributions you have made to cave diving. i know anyone who is anyone in cave diving, and i don't know you. i think the contributions the wkpp have made speak for themselves. you can ask any member of this team any question and you will get a very complete answer. we are willing to help. we offer our time and information freely to anyone that wants it. let me know where else you can find that. to quote one of my dive buddies, "if you aren't riding beside me down A tunnel while towing two scooters and ferrying 4 stage bottles, i am not interested in your opinion". scott landon >From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey) >Reply-To: trey@ne*.co* >To: sallot@mi*.co* >CC: Bill Johnson <sigxbill@sc*.co*>, Cavers@cavers.com >Subject: Re: The Real Top 5 Reasons for the Little River Fatality >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:39:22 -0500 > >Kenny, this jerk is a power of exsmple, let him make a target of himself >, his organization, and his magazine - all pure stroke. > >sallot@mi*.co* wrote: > > > > I just wanted to comment that this is in really poor taste. > > > > I think anyone, who has any sort of clue, recognizes that the main >reason > > for this fatality was that the diver was diving (well) beyond his diving > > training/abilities. > > > > Ken > > > > -- > > Don't bother me, I'm living happily ever after. > > > > On 16 Mar 2000, Bill Johnson wrote: > > > > > The diver ... > > > > > > 5. ...didn't buy Halcyon gear > > > > > > 4. ...didn't pay attention to the finer points of Dan stroking George >off > > > > > > 3. ...didn't bookmark the GUE web site > > > > > > 2. ...left a message for George at the wrong phone number > > > > > > 1. ...forgot to boast the magic words that he was 'doing it right' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Signup for your FREE Scuba Diving Email account at >http://www.scubadiving.com > > > > > > P.S. For a FREE trial issue of Rodale's Scuba Diving magazine > > > go to: >https://commerce.cdsfulfillment.com/SC2/subscriptions.cgi?IN_Code=I01T001 > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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