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Joe, I use helium for every dive I do, including Ginnie Springs if I
were to dive there, which I do not. When I did dive there swimming to
the Hinkle, I used 30% oxygen trimix, and did a ten minute safety stop
in the eye, and when I scootered it on any gas, I did no deco at all.

The only place it is smart to swim dive is Mexico. If I want to swim, I
go to Masters and swim for real. If I am underwater, I do not want to
see my heart rate go over 60 beats per minute.

If your question is exertion vs no exertion for deco calc, the real
answer lies in how much damage you did swimming with the equivalent of a
car parked on all of your joints, and then how much hyperbaric oxygen it
will take to "fix" that. The answer is don't do it.

I like to explore cave and see some scenery.So do you. Can't do it where
either one of us dive without several scooters, and a lot of bt. What
are you doing at Ginnie, trying to get your gear stolen and embarrass
yourself ? 

Joe, get with the program. If I were to do one dive in every one of the
sinkholes that we have access to in the WKP , I would be Mount's age by
the time I finished.

You do not need stroke practide, you need stroke-free practice, as does
anyone who really wants to play the game, and there is only one
organization to do that with in Florida - the WKPP. Everything else is
what it is - nothing.

Joseph Kaffl wrote:
> 
> How about a shallow He type dive,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lets say a Stroke dive to
> the Hinkle and back with 30 minutes of swim time on the other
> side...................what kind of gas and what kind of Deco.........
> I recent did a single day of diving at Ginnie.........most of the sump
> diving we do is shallow so no need for He for these dives with the He for
> the deeper wrek diving etc.    For this dive I used Nitrox and I could
> definitely feel the impairment ................how would you do this
> dive.....................   other than not doing it at
> all.....................
> 
>                   JOE
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> To: Joseph Kaffl <sumpdiver@em*.ms*.co*>
> Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 6:06 AM
> Subject: scooter
> 
> >Joe, got the check. I am going up diving today, if I can dive at all
> >with this knee, and will be back Sunday. The rest of the parts should be
> >in next week and I should eable to get this done within the next two
> >weeks.
> >

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