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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:19:00 -0500
To: John Robinson <jhrobinson@fl*.ne*>
CC: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Halcyon DIR Stage Bottle Rig doesn't seem to work
John, I have never seen that before, and I am Project Director of the
WKPP. Either the knot is at the other end and is a square knot with the
ends of the rope being a knot, or the top is a loop and the bottom is a
clinch knot that is then burned at its ends.

Return it and ask for another. I just bought some and put them on safety
bottles and they were correct.

John Robinson wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just ordered 2 stage bottle rigs from Halcyon and when I got them I
> noticed that the
> bolt clip toward the bottom of the bottle is held in place with a Knot
> that is held in place
> by melting the end of the rope to the rest of the knot. When I lightly
> tugged on the ends
> of the rope, the knot fell apart in my hands allowing the bolt clip to
> fall off. Both of the kits
> I got are like this. It seems as though something better than this
> should be done.
> Halcyon claims this is the exact same gear the WKPP uses. Am I missing
> something
> or did I get a bad batch. Please see attached picture. I also noticed
> the short length of
> the rope in the vicinity of the knot does not lend itself to tying a
> better knot.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> John Robinson
> 
> 
>  [Image]


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