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From: "Frank Lavallee" <lavalle7@gt*.ne*>
To: "Cavers Forum" <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: To Don W. - About Deep Air
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:48:47 -0400
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Don:

     In answer to your question, "What unexplainable stupid behavior =
have you seen from your dive partners diving between 80' and 170' on air =
that would indicate that they were seriously messed up and didn't know =
it?", here are a couple of examples I personally was involved in:

 1.  Two divers swimming around at 150' in open water, enjoying the =
sites and failing to monitor their dwindling air supply, until I showed =
one diver he only had 900 PSI left, then had to literally drag the =
second diver back towards the surface, who insisted that everything was =
alright, even after I had showed him that he had only 700 PSI left.  =
Clear-headed and thinking straight?  I think not!

2.   A diver who bragged how great he was on air past 200', then went =
into such a stupor at 140', that it took 2 of us to drag up back towards =
the surface.  Clear-headed and thinking straight?  Not hardly!

     Tom Mount may be good on air at 170'.  So am I, under good diving =
conditions, but that doesn't mean I keep doing it on a regular basis.  I =
made some pretty idiotic air dives back in the late 80's and early 90's, =
including one off Andros Island to 310' that almost got me killed.=20

     We now have the benefit of EANx and Trimix to make the deeper dives =
more safely, and with a lot less decompression obligation, so why the =
need to continue to make air dives to 200' and beyond?

     By the way, the current depth record on air is 510'(somebody =
correct me if I'm wrong).  Anyone would have to be real idiot to try and =
beat that!


Frank Lavallee

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<DIV>     In answer to your question, "What =
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and=20
170' on air that would indicate that they were seriously messed up and =
didn't=20
know it?", here are a couple of examples I personally was involved =
in:</DIV>
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<DIV> 1.  Two divers swimming around at 150' in open =
water,=20
enjoying the sites and failing to monitor their dwindling air supply, =
until I=20
showed one diver he only had 900 PSI left, then had to literally drag =
the second=20
diver back towards the surface, who insisted that everything was =
alright,=20
even after I had showed him that he had only 700 PSI left. =20
Clear-headed and thinking straight?  I think not!</DIV>
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<DIV>2.   A diver who bragged how great he was on air past =
200', then=20
went into such a stupor at 140', that it took 2 of us to drag up back =
towards=20
the surface.  Clear-headed and thinking straight?  Not =
hardly!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>     Tom Mount may be good on air at =
170'.  So am=20
I, under good diving conditions, but that doesn't mean I keep doing it =
on a=20
regular basis.  I made some pretty idiotic air dives back in the =
late 80's=20
and early 90's, including one off Andros Island to 310' that almost =
got me=20
killed. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>     We now have the benefit of EANx and Trimix =
to make=20
the deeper dives more safely, and with a lot less decompression =
obligation, so=20
why the need to continue to make air dives to 200' and beyond?</DIV>
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<DIV>     By the way, the current depth record on =
air is=20
510'(somebody correct me if I'm wrong).  Anyone would have to be =
real idiot=20
to try and beat that!</DIV>
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<DIV>Frank Lavallee</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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