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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:32:19 -0400
From: Lee Gibson and Lucy Bonilla <lonestar@al*.ne*>
To: kirvine@sa*.ne*, cavers list <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: Solo Diving Article, NACD
I don't believe training should include solo diving, but it should be
recognized and avoided if you are not prepared to deal with it.  How many
side-mount zero visibility bedding plane restrictions  have you been through
in "your time cave diving"?  Judging from your position I would say ZERO.  I
just pushed one 200' in a virgin system in the Suwannee River to break out
into Florida Room size passage to a penetration of 1500' with more leads to
push.  A buddy ahead of me could not get turned around to help me nor vice
versa. So if I have a problem in that bedding plane I better have a fool proof
plan for self rescue...sounds a lot like solo diving doesn't it.  You might
find what I do to be too big, dark, and scary.  I will look for you with your
putter in your hand.
Lee

kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:

> No, Lee , you are missing the point - proper training shows you how to
> easily solve these problems, and in my time cave diving, that training
> has allowed me and my dive partners to handle these with ease - in fact,
> it IS CAVE DIVING.
>
> Rennaker is an idiot, plain and simple.
>
> Also, the attitude of a "stroke" is what you describe below. Lee, if
> this is so big, dark and scary - DON'T DO IT - take up golf.
>
> Lee Gibson and Lucy Bonilla wrote:
> >
> > I think some of you are missing the point of the "most important person"
> > concept.  Mr. Rennaker is just being honest about basic human nature.
> > When things are the worst we all revert to our survival instincts
> > despite the best intentions.  Recent case, the Jackson Blue incident
> > also detailed in the Journal (and let me emphasize that I am not sitting
> > in judgment of these divers),
> > three divers entered the system.  At maximum penetration they had a silt
> > out and lost communication with each other...they became solo divers.
> > Two of them were able to regroup attempt a search and then exit...the
> > third was left behind.  As the two exited their stress levels were
> > obviously elevated with self preservation being the priority.  When they
> > reached their safety bottles, three full 80cf  at 1000', neither diver
> > elected to pick up the bottles and go back in to search some more....the
> > thought of getting out was paramount and understandable.  In all cases
> > self rescue is better than buddy rescue and should be taught in that
> > order.
> > As for solo diving, it should be made as a cognitive choice not as an
> > outcome of circumstance.  The divers at Jackson had no intention of solo
> > diving, but for a time it occurred.  Mr. Rennaker's article eludes to
> > these types of scenarios.....swimming or scootering too far apart, loss
> > of visibility
> > without touch contact,  long one-man restrictions, stressed or task
> > overloaded diver....these scenarios are "solo dives" and should be
> > avoided if you are not prepared for them.  The other type of solo diving
> > is intentional, even if a "buddy" is in the water.  Small system
> > exploration being the best example.  It requires special gear, training,
> > and mind set.  Solo diving can and is being done safely on a routine
> > basis by a small number of experienced cave divers.  They just don't
> > advertise or promote the activity...solo diving definitely is not for
> > everyone, but neither is cave diving for that matter.
> > Lee Gibson
> > Matt London wrote:
> >
> > > I was also appalled at this article and Mr. Rennarker and his
> > > insistence on his "most important person" concept. The lack of proper
> > > buddy system procedures, communication skills, equipment knowledge and
> > > configuration, dive planning and the basic diving skills that is so
> > > obvious in cave diving today is the direct responsibility of the
> > > instructors handing out the certifications. Many people today seem to
> > > be more interested in collecting "C" cards ASAP then learning the art
> > > of safe cave diving. With all due respect it is my opinion that Mr.
> > > Rennikers article is a prime example of what we don't want to teach
> > > our students. Best regards M> Thailand's deep cave exploration at -
> > > www.divefun.com/tcdp/

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