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From: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: <heinerth@gt*.ne*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Cc: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>,
     "\"Cost effective home improvement\"" ,
     "\" Chris Werner \"" ,
    
Subject: Re: Jill Speaks for Herself
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:56 -0400
Jill,

Maybe you ought to quit cave diving and go work for Hillary Clinton's
campaign. I am sure they will need a good team of experts who are skilled at
distorting facts and avoiding answering direct questions. Why can't you give
a straight answer to the question of whether you in fact penetrated 10,000
ft in a dive or went a total distance of 10,000 ft?  You have been around
cave diving long enough to know perfectly well the distinction between the
two terms and it is a very significant distinction.

Throughout this whole whinny, victim mentality, tear jerking missive of
yours you totally avoid answering the question. I am not at all surprised
about this since the entire USDCT project was filled with half truths and
misinformation.  The project was finally punctuated by one of the greatest
half truths of all, which was the death of Henry by so called "natural
causes".

Aside from Stone's blatant theft of the WKPP scooter plans the business
about the Australian diver with the knee bandage was one of the more
astounding examples of prevarication. We later discovered that the idiot
dived to B tunnel with air diluent in his rebreather and was in fact
breathing almost total nitrogen. His dcs symptoms were neuroloigcal despite
the claims to the contrary, as was later verified privately by the attending
hyperbaric physician.

Amazingly, you wondered why the WKPP wanted nothing to do with you. In your
own daily self aggrandizing press releases in which you trumpeted your
accomplishments, you publicly documented some of the most horrific examples
of dangerous cave diving incompetence ever reported.  One of the great
classics was your husband's dive in B tunnel with Brian Kakuk, during which
your husband Paul goes off into some side tunnel rat hole and leaves Brian
who in turn goes off on his own somewhere else 5000 ft out. Just who would
have come to the aid of either of these geniuses if anything had gone wrong
with CCRs? Of course nothing ever goes wrong with the Cis Lunars, only diver
error and natural causes as we all know. That type of solo diving, buddy
leaving bs is, simply put, the single worst crime you will ever commit in
the WKPP.  That would be your last dive because nobody would ever dare take
the risk of being your partner again.  The whole WA-II project was rife with
examples of buddy leaving personal preference. Exactly the sort of stuff
which has led to the wave of fatalities reported over on techdiver.  You
just do not get it.

You are the problem, because you are the antithesis of DIR, you have worked
to sabotage and fight the WKPP at every turn including thinly veiled
attempts  to negatively influence and coerce our sponsors and worst of all I
must assume that since you teach by example the above described behaviors
form part of your cave diving curriculum.   It is exactly this reprobate
attitude which is ruining cave diving and technical diving, in general.  No,
Jill, we are not the problem with cave diving.

Take the cotton out of your ears.

Bill Mee

-----Original Message-----
From: Jill Heinerth <heinerth@gt*.ne*>
To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 10:35 PM
Subject: Jill Speaks for Herself


>Although I tend to keep very quiet on the internet, I feel compelled to
>set straight some serious inaccuracies that have been published about
>myself and the Wakulla2 Project.
>
>To begin, I would like to preface my comments with a wish that this
>sport could somehow become more of an open forum with a fresh exchange
>of ideas. I sincerely believe that competitiveness within the ranks will
>
>lead to fatalities. I  pursue cave diving for personal fulfillment and
>the joy that I get meeting people who openly exchange ideas. I get as
>much excitement out of laying line as I do hearing about discoveries and
>
>accomplishments that others have made. I have stayed out of the internet
>
>bickering because it only deters good people from asking questions that
>are important to them.
>
>My 21 hour dive at Wakulla Springs seems to be a bone of contention with
>
>some individuals in the caving community. I thought I would clear the
>air by describing what occurred during my dive.
>
>My partner Brian Kakuk and I were charged with the task of placing radio
>
>location beacons that could be sensed on the surface by our team-mate
>and radio expert Brian Pease. We were asked to set, level and fire
>several coils that could confirm the surface GPS location of key
>intersections in B Tunnel (see the published Wakulla High Accuracy
>Network Manual - www.wakulla2.org). We were on the clock, trying to
>coordinate our dive with a team of “trackers” on the surface. Our job
>was to leap frog coils through the tunnels at 300 feet and wait a
>predesignated time of up to 20 minutes per coil, while the surface team
>zeroed in on our signal. After placing several coils along the way and
>waiting for long durations, we found ourselves at the end of the B
>Tunnel line. We had a timetable to stick to but had approximately 30
>minutes to burn before needing to head back out towards our next
>location. Although we had found a note within the cave indicating that
>there was nothing left to discover, we probed some breakdown and found
>going passage. Brian and I eagerly grabbed a reel and paid out fresh
>line beyond the extent of exploration. After dropping 1025 feet of new
>line, there was still virgin cave beckoning to us, but we had to retreat
>
>to make our scheduled beacon position on time for the surface crew.
>
>The result of our five hour+ bottom time was a long decompression
>schedule of an additional sixteen hours. We set up a dry transfer
>capsule for the project that allowed divers to get out of the water much
>
>sooner. The result was an extremely safe, well-monitored, comfortable
>decompression schedule.
>
>As to other recent comments by an individual who I have not even
>formerly met... the report is true, I am a proud Canadian who has lived
>in the States for approximately four years. Most of my diving career has
>
>been outside this country. I have never claimed to have gone farther
>than the extremely impressive WKPP dive to 18,000 feet in Wakulla. I
>have merely been acknowledged as a woman who is doing something out of
>the norm in my gender.
>
>I sincerely applaud and support the efforts of the WKPP and other
>exploration teams. They have done some extremely dedicated work that
>will benefit the community for a long time to come. (I truly wish that
>we could have worked together.)
>
>What I cannot support is individuals who spew hatred and untruths over
>the internet. I only have personal experience with one individual who
>frankly scares me with internet threats and handwritten letters that
>cheerfully anticipate the untimely deaths of my husband and I.
>
>So I will retreat back into my quiet world and continue cave diving
>which I love so very much. I can only hope that the community sifts
>through the crap and continues to learn from each other. Everyone in
>this community has something to offer that is positive. If we all keep
>ourselves open to new ideas for our particular diving applications, then
>
>this will be a safer sport.
>
>Safe diving and best wishes to all who explore the uncharted earth.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Jill Heinerth
>
>
>
>

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