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From: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>, "Frank Lavallee" <lavalle7@gt*.ne*>
Cc: "Cavers Forum" <cavers@cavers.com>, <MrClark95@ao*.co*>
Subject: Re: Message To Cavers List
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:54:43 -0400
Dear Mr. Lavallee,

Honestly, I don't see the profanity here either and in fact your advocacy of
180ft ENDS is the real profanity. I think it is extremely irresponsible for
you to recommend such known dangerous practices especially in view of your
position of leadership in your local community.  As a Plant City police
officer do you advocate drunk driving to high school students?  Your
position on air diving is no different and you will find that nobody, not
even Hal Watts, will publicly endorse this practice anymore.  Perhaps you
would like to write to the families of the dead people on the NACD
historical fatality list and tell them that deep air diving is really a good
thing and that their dead relatives weren't "good deep on air".

There are many people out there who might make the mistake of assuming that
your cave diving experience and your relative luck in dodging the bullet
validates deep air diving.  It doesn't and the statistics have long ago
conclusively proven that air diving beyond 130ft is dangerous stupidity.




-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: Frank Lavallee <lavalle7@gt*.ne*>
Cc: Cavers Forum <cavers@cavers.com>
Date: Friday, July 30, 1999 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Message To Cavers List


>Frankie, show me the profanity and I will drive up there and kiss your
>fat slob butt. You are a dangerous ignoramus in my opinion. Like Trout
>said, tell us about your thinking here so we can show exactly why you
>are so dangerously stupid. Make my day, and skip the "profanity" crap.
>The only "profanity" here is the picture of your enormous freak show
>self on your website. This shuld contain a parental warning - it is the
>sickest thing I have seen on the internet. You are a disgrace to the
>barnyard, and an embarassement to all of the farm animals out there who
>are still smarting from some of Rennaker's comments on here . Since I
>have had to deal with you guys I can't even drink a container of milk if
>it has Elsie's picture on it - I have to hold my hand over the cow face
>so I don't choke laughing .
>
>Frank Lavallee wrote:
>>
>>      To all of you who responded to my diving website:
>> http://www.homestead.com/CaptainSpeleo/NewPage1.html with your
>> complimentary E-mail messages and by signing my guestbook, I thank you
>> all and hope you will return soon.
>>
>>      To kirvine@sa*.ne* who responded with a couple of profane,
>> flaming E-mail messages, I expected nothing different, considering the
>> source.
>>
>>
>> Frank Lavallee
>
>
>

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