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I just noticed the Katherine. I have not used this computer in a year. Billy Baxter wrote: > > "Katherine", I think you did a wonderful job of explaining the details and > did it with out beating the crap out of Christina... Nice Job!!!! This > worries me a little but great advice :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Katherine Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*> > To: Caruso, Christina R (Christina) <ccaruso@lu*.co*> > Cc: 'Kevin Connell' <kevin@nw*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com> > Date: Friday, July 23, 1999 12:22 PM > Subject: Re: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale > > >Christina, all kidding aside - proper gear balance is the correct > >answer, not more gear to offset doing something stupid. I do more ocean > >diving than cave diving, and more deep ocean diving than anyone on this > >list ever has done in their collective lives, and quite a bit of it > >looking for the bodies of those who were diving with an unbalanced rig > >and screwball wing schemes. In fact, finding bodies is the only reason > >good enough to get me to do it anymore - it is stupid, stupid, and more > >stupid, and incredibly stupid done the way you say it is being taught. > > > >I dive aluminum 80's and a weight belt and/or a cave light with a wet > >suit, and can drop the belt if I need to get up for any reason, like > >loss of gas, loss of hoses, etc. When diving steel I have a drysuit with > >its own inflation. Big steel tanks on a boat are dumb. 80's with an 80 > >stage solves the hoovery problem, the multiple dive problems, and when > >you need to walk around a pitching deck, or take your tanks off in the > >water, you will appreciate the lighter aluminums. > > > >Trying to manage a mess like double wings or inflators is patently > >ridiculous, and extremely dangerous in my well informed and seasoned > >opinion. Trying to teach pigs to sing in deep water is the excuse most > >often proferred by our fine instuctional community, the mental > >equivalent of roofers or car wash monkees, and I do not pay much > >attention to what they have to say in diving or at the car wash. > > > >Obvious is obvious, and what it most obvious here is that we have idiots > >dispening dive advice at the key levels - a real shame. Good thing there > >are a few good ones out there, and good thing there is an alternative to > >the bullshit - G.U.E. > > > >I got lucky and drew good ones from O/W to cave. Clearly you did not, > >but it is not too late to go find out the real deal. You're missing the > >freedom of diving the DIR way. > > > >Caruso, Christina R (Christina) wrote: > >> > >> Most tech groups currently recommend Hogarthian set ups or minimization, > but > >> I have seen numerous editorials defending redundancy for deep ocean > diving > >> and last year there was an article (in Deep Tech I think..) that > suggested > >> dual BCs as an option for this. I don't think that's as practical as > dual > >> bladders (cleaner set up). If you want I can try to hunt through my old > >> copies and try to find the article and therefore the author... > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] > >> Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 10:49 AM > >> To: Caruso, Christina R (Christina) > >> Cc: cavers@cavers.com > >> Subject: RE: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale > >> > >> Who recommends dual BC's? > >> > >> At 09:56 AM 7/23/1999 -0400, you wrote: > >> >kirvine@sa*.ne*, > >> > I know a lot of people have the personal preference of > >> minimization, > >> >and with CAVE diving you can "crawl" out but with deep OCEAN diving > >> >redundancy is recommended. Sorry I didn't specify that I was referring > to > >> >deep ocean. The recommended redundancy is either a BCD and a lift bag > >> >(which can be used for buoyancy if the BC fails) or dual BCs or dual > >> >bladders. Do you often do DEEP OCEAN diving?? The reason I'm selling > this > >> >BC is because I don't need or want such redundancy when cave diving and > >> >don't do deep ocean diving. I only need a little 45lb wing for my cave > >> >diving. > >> > > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: kirvine@sa*.ne* [mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*] > >> >Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 12:41 AM > >> >To: Caruso, Christina R (Christina) > >> >Cc: 'Bill Lais'; 'cavers@cavers.com' > >> >Subject: Re: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale > >> > > >> > > >> >This is a classic " the redundency needs of deep diving". Thanks for > >> >coming in today, Christina. > >> > > >> >Caruso, Christina R (Christina) wrote: > >> > > > >> > > What it is: a BCD, wing style, Scubapro Brand, SuperTek model for > >> >technical > >> > > diving. It has full redundancy by having two bladders and two > inflator > >> > > hoses - aimed for the redundancy needs of deep diving. It requires a > >> > > backplate (like those used for double tanks) > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Bill Lais [mailto:billlais@mp*.ne*] > >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 9:25 PM > >> > > To: Caruso, Christina R (Christina); cavers@cavers.com > >> > > Subject: Re: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale > >> > > > >> > > Stupbabro Scuper Tek gual dbladder googles > >> > > > >> > > - say what?? > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: Caruso, Christina R (Christina) <ccaruso@lu*.co*> > >> > > To: <cavers@cavers.com> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 8:06 PM > >> > > Subject: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > I have a Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale. Owned > less > >> >than > >> > > > one year (more wing than I need/want). Will take $300 or best > offer. > >> > > > > >> > > > Christina Caruso > >> > > > 407-875-4557 > >> > > > FAX: 407-875-4474 > >> > > > pager: 800-258-0336 pin 1273388 > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------- > >> Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >> > >> NW Labor Systems, Inc > >> http://www.nwls.com > >> > >> Who is John Galt? > >> ----------------------------------------------- > > > > > >
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