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From: "mike bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>
To: "cavers" <cavers@cavers.com>,
     "Cost effective home improvement"
Subject: Fw: [HCD] Madison
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:21:51 -0400

-----Original Message-----
From: mike bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
To: HoustonCaveDivers@ca*.co* <HoustonCaveDivers@ca*.co*>
Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [HCD] Madison


>Dan, Ginnies insurance should cover this (I "think" they had a 15 million
>dollar policy), but "will" their provider still cover them after this last
>pay out (they have had others too)????? Divers are "NOT" a liability in my
>eyes at Madison Blue, it's the "general public" that scares the #$&@!() out
>of me and my mom. People NEED to "start" taking responsibility for their
own
>actions (stupidity in general), but the courts don't see it that way. Thats
>why the state passed legislation "capping" the  liability these inbreed
>idiots file against them (the state), but we, the so-called free (you and
>me) are left bent over the barrel, with our paints down, so we can pay more
>taxes. And ""YES"", Madison Blue will forevermore remain open for cave
>diving, or I'll be dead.
>
>Bruic
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lloyd, Daniel <dlloyd@bu*.co*>
>To: HoustonCaveDivers <HoustonCaveDivers@ca*.co*>
>Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 10:58 AM
>Subject: RE: [HCD] Madison
>
>
>
>Mike, is liability insurance for Madison so high it makes sense to sell
to
>the state?  Your call on that one.  Ginnie will never pay out 7   million.
>If they do, Jonathon will do that macy's window thing George is   always
>talking about. <g>
>
>What did Ginnie get sued for?
>
>Dan
>----------
>From:  HoustonCaveDivers[SMTP:HoustonCaveDivers@ca*.co*]
>Sent:  Tuesday, July 06, 1999 8:00 PM
>To:  cavers; Cost effective home improvement; 'Houston Cavers'
>Subject:  Re: [HCD] Madison
>
>Ginnie just lost a 7 million dollar law suit, I sure as hell don't want
>one
>like that. If the state buys Madison, we will still run it, but then our
>liability ceiling would be capped at two hundred thousand, instead of the
>free for all lottery pay off that the juries are now handing out. Private
>companies, and corporations can be sued for any, and I do mean any
amount,
>but if something happens to you on state land, the limit is set at two
>hundred grand. It sounds like a double standard law to me, but we need to
>protect ourselves if we want to keep the spring open.
>
>Bruic
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lloyd, Daniel <dlloyd@bu*.co*>
>To: 'Houston Cavers' <HoustonCaveDivers@ca*.co*>
>Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 8:24 PM
>Subject: [HCD] Madison
>
>
>
>Mike,
>
>What is the deal with Madison being for sale?
>
>Dan
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