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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 05:51:19 -0400
To: chrisc@bc*.co*.nz*
CC: cavers@cavers.com, techdiver@aq*.co*,
     "\"John Grogan\"" ,
     Peter Fjelsten
Subject: Re: Deep Air Masquerades as Diluent: was Re: Gurr again?
Chris, the whole attitude out there is so wrong: gas is easier to dive ,
easier to learn, easier to breathe and far better in every respect than
air. There is no depth for which air is the correct gas for diving.

On the other hand, we have the Training Agency Paradox, how to extract
the most amount of money in the most number of courses in the shortest
amount of time while teaching nothing usefull wihtout regard for the
enjoyment and well being of the student  while pretending to be adhering
to some "standard".

 For instance, what kind of moron teaches somebody rebreather when that
person does not understand gases well enouh to dive them - the are only
two answers in my opinion: IANTD and TDI. 

 To make matters worse, and to show exactly where this mentality of deep
air is coming from, this last fatality invoved a person who  in fact had
been diving gas for six years, but was taught to dive air on the
rebreather, the subeject of Bill Mee's post.

 Why are we the only ones who can see this stupidity? Am I supposed to
be nice to these idiots and not say anything? Training is so piss poor
that Jablonski had to go start a real training agency to do it properly,
and we have all of us having to help teach different classes - something
none of us has the time to do, simply because there is a severe shortage
out there of anyone who has any freaking idea what they are doing in
this sport, thanks to the "training agencies".

NAUI's Tim O' Leary has tried to put together a decent tech program ,
but is hampered by the legion of fat slobs who still want air diving and
other crap as part of the program.

Let me sugest that all of you deep air divers out there see if you can
get into a Methadone program - it would be a lot safer, and a better
buzz.


chrisc@bc*.co*.nz* wrote:
> 
> > Bill , I concur. The phenomenon that continues to amaze me is how
> > successful, inteligent, wealthy people who can afford to buy rebreathers
> > and go on exotic diving trips will go to the dumbest, most uneducated,
> > pathetic collection of dive industry mutants like the inhabitants and
> > "executives" of INATD and TDI to learn diving, like the derivatives trader
> > They go on to blindly follow the crap they are fed by these idiots.
> 
> Its a world wide philisophy which says buy the one which has been
> around the longest, largest, brand name recognition etc in the belief that
> it MUST be better.
> This is a killer of new ideas, the smaller business man, capitalism etc.
> (plus it might be that by the time they have paid for the trip that there
isn't
> much left over or the way you became rich wasn't by paying too much or
> maybe just plain ignorance).
> I have picked up some bad habits (and I confess still have some) by
> having no peers that I could consult in my area. I now know where to find
> the information I need fortunately not too late but I feel sorry for those
> who don't quite have sufficient drive to search further.
> 
> Regards
> Chris Calvert


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