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Steve, nothing has changed in years. Nothing will change by the normal channels. The change is coming from the WKPP, GUE , and noplace else. Read some of Tom Mouth's slop and know that this training agency head has been diving for 50 years and teaching about that long as well, and he sitll has no clue ( see his postings for that proof). Obvious is obvious, and the obvious thing is to avoid the people who do these things, and to get with the ones who do not. Real simple. You can't teach pigs to sing - it does not work and it annoys the pigs. In our last two cave diving deaths we had a bad plan that lead to a the test of no buddy skills and no way to deal with it and death, and in the second one the refusal to correctly mark bottles, refusal to pay any attention to each others' bottles ( as if they could with the markings), and then an inapproriate response ( failing to surface toxed diver and then go back to deco). None of this is going to change. What is going to change is that most of you will not be allowed to dive, and to dive with us you have no choice but to do it right. I blame the training agencies for continuing to propagate stupidity , misinformation, and fear, not for the accident per se in these cases. it is the attittude that kills and that is everywehre out there. Like a good freind of mine says, "That is why I don't dive with those people". Stephen E Jolley wrote: > > Why do the some of the readers of this list feel that blame must be > placed on an agency or person when a tradegy occurs? > > The fact that someone has lost a life, someone had lost a loved one, and > someone has lost a friend is enough of a tragic loss. > > I feel that for every loss there is a lesson to be learned. > Unfortunately, the normal case is that someone didn't follow the rules > which have been well established over time. Speculation on the events > which occured at the time can be one of the biggest detriments to > learning the true facts surrounding a loss. > > I propose that reprsentatives from each agency meet meet once a year to > review the accident analysis reports of each fatality. Reach a unified > agreement on events which probably occurred and publish those findings, > free of charge, to the members of those agencies involved. This would > help to unite the agencies and determine who is interested in making the > sport of cave and technical diving safer for all. Yes, this would take > planning, time and effort. The same items are used in making a dive. > Everyone would benefit from this type of action. > > Steve Jolley > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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