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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:42:44 -0400
To: "John R. Rose" <rose@cs*.sc*.ed*>
CC: TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: labeling reply to Bill Mee
John, you obviously do not know Gurr - they don't come any dumber , and
the term "stroke" immediately becomes a weak metaphor for what may be
one of the aboslute worst examples of buffoonery known to man. This is
the guy with the "gear rigging video" where he shows how to stuff the
long hose in his bondage wings. It would bring tears to your eyes - you
would not be able to stop laughing. This is Tom's home grown boy.

John R. Rose wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> What is with YOU!!!!
> Any cylinder that is out of my hands damn-well gets analyzed
> by me BEFORE I slap a regulator on it. It doesn't matter which dive
> shop you are talking about. The fact that this person almost "bought
> the farm" illustrates why this is important. Complacency kills.
> Are you arguing that the student was justified in risking his life
> by not analyzing the gas, or that it is unreasonable to expect that
> a competent instructor would have insisted that the gas be analyzed?
> The bottom line is:
> 1) "some idiot filled a cylinder labeled as air with a hot mix" per your
>     email
> 2) Some idiot  student did not analyze a cylinder that was out of his
>    hands over night.
> 3) Some idiot instructor allowed the idiot student to dive
>    a cylinder without analyzing.
> 4) The instructor pulled the students chestnuts out of the fire.
>    The silver lining of an otherwise dark cloud.
> 
> Looks to me like 3 people screwed up. By far, the biggest screw up was
> that of the instructor in terms of responsibility. The reason for
> instruction is to help students survive by avoiding known causes of
> death, not to help them experience them prematurely.
> 
> -John
> 
>


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