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For those who always wondered, Parker Turner coined the term stroke after meeting Farr in the Bahamas. Gavin, Main, English and Turner were the leaders in cave diving in the mid to late 80's, long before the first edition of Farr's book in 91, and the exploits of the WKPP were certainly well documented by the time the second edition came out 5 or 6 years ago. The swim thru from Sullivan to Cheryl in the late 80's was a world record at the time. That Farr refuses to recognise or mention the WKPP in either edition is directly attributable to his resentment of Parker. Trout ---------- > From: Jesse Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*> > To: Cost effective home improvement <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*> > Subject: Re: record dives in uw caves > Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 12:16 PM > > Is it true that that idiot Farr wrote a book that he called "The Darkness > Beckons, the > history and development of Cave Diving" and failed to so much as mention > the WKPP? > > Trout > > ---------- > From: Josep Guarro <jep@re*.es*> > To: Cost effective home improvement <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*> > Subject: Re: record dives in uw caves > Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 11:08 AM > > As far as I know the longest swimtroguh cave diving traverse in Europe > is still the King Pot -Keld Head traverse (in the Three Counties > System, Northern England, UK) with a distance of 3,100m (10,170 feet) > max depth 30m (100 feet) done by Geoff Yeadon and Geoff Crossley in > August 1991. (As reported in the book "The Darkness Beckons, the > history and development of Cave Diving" by Martin Farr 1991, ISBN: > 0-906371-87-2 ) > > Another interesting one is the more recent (1996) traverse Padirac-La > Finou (France) it is not exactly the same but is a very challenging > one: > 19,000 meters (62,300 feet) entrance to entrance, invloving 2,990 > meters (9,809 feet) of mandatory underwater passages altough with dry > passages inbetween (22 consecutive sumps) and 16,000 meters (52,500 > feet) of dry passages. > This one was done by Bernard Gauche in 50 hours (6th to 9th September > 1996) as reported in The International Caver magazine issue 18 (1996) > in the article 'Gouffre de Padirac, la grande jonction' by Thomas > Knoch. > > > Hope it helps, and good luck > > Josep Guarro > Barcelona (Catalonia- Spain) > > > >Does anyone know of a database that keeps track primarily > >of uw caves? I'm aware of some that track caves in general > >(one in France and one loosely associated with NSS). I've > >also seen UWS publish some articles by Oliver Knabb, but > >those are out of date. > > > >Right now I'm trying to determine what the current cave > >diving traverse record is--both in North America and > >Worldwide. Any help in this area will be appreciated. I > >plan on trying to generate some articles based on the WKPP > >swimthrough from Big Dismal to Cheryl. So, having the > >recent facts would be most helpful. > > > >Mike > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >DO YOU YAHOO!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >--- Freeattic list subscriptions/removals should be sent to > >--- sallot@mi*.co*. > > --Josep-- > > --- Freeattic list subscriptions/removals should be sent to > --- sallot@mi*.co*. > ---------- > > > --- Freeattic list subscriptions/removals should be sent to > --- sallot@mi*.co*.
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