Mr. Cobb, You could not be further from the truth. As a matter of fact, your view seems to be in the minority. The day that you do something then have someone steal it will show a change of attitude, that is the day you do something. It is very difficult to say anything without you and your friends throwing in the fact that I build equipment. I am not sure where you get that I am doing the marketing, maybe you need to go look at this web page and tell us again who is doing the marketing. I am speaking as an individual trying to protect what is mine, while these "people" are using my work to sell and promote their product. If one day I decide to use any of my work to promote anything I do and you don't like it, then you can also fuckoff. Barry At 10:59 AM 3/24/99 -0500, Jim Cobb wrote: >Oh for Christs Sake, lets get real here. The reason that the ratster has >his panties in a wad is the fact that this web site promotes AUL products >and not his gear. All this huff-and-puffery is just a smokescreen and a >bunch of baby-like boo-hooing that, frankly, does not reflect well on >Miller or his products. > >You are in the real world now, Miller, you need to start acting like a >business professional and not a redneck hillbilly pickemuptruck cowboy. >You need to take your marketing medicine like a man and quit belaboring >the list with your whining. > > Jim > >Sender: Michel Therrien Date: 3/24/99 9:29 AM > >>Dear Pagefix, (who is Pagefix?) >> >>I am not Barry's friend, nor a WKPP diver or affiliate. I will admit that >>I don't always like the attitude of some WKPP leaders. >> >>This said, the reason why I wrote the message is not to defend Barry... it >>is a question of principle. I have no tolerance for pirating, steeling and >>unethical behavior such as taking someones material without his permission. >> I propably have this attitude because I worked in the software industry (I >>don't know). >> >>Is there a reason why you stay anonymous? This is another thing I have >>problem with... I guess. >> >>Please note that the issue for me is not legal... it is ethical. While the >>law may allow to copy someone's material for educative purposes, I don't >>think this is honest. >> >>Is it so hard to ask permission to use material PRIOR to using it? I was >>flattered that the NSS-CDS recently asked me to use some of my pictures. >>On the other hand, I would have been really pissed off if I saw my pictures >>without any prior discussion about their use. >> >>Michel Therrien >>Montreal, Canada >> >>PS: I know it is unethical to copy private messages in public forums, but I >>started public and I think your answer may help the rest of the crowd to >>understand your position. >> >> >>At 09:04 AM 3/24/99 EST, you wrote: >>>Michel the video was given to one of our sponsors and we took some clips of >>>it. The law states that you can us this type of material as long as you are >>>not selling it to make a profit. We e-mailed Barry with an apology for the >>>mistake and fixed the problem. He didn't post that part on you cavers list >>>just the other parts that he wanted you to see. The fact of the matter is we >>>would have agreed with what he asked but after the flaming he gave us we took >>>a defensive posture. What is wrong with him has he no respect for >>anything or >>>one? I am sorry if you want to punish AUL for Barry Millers Flaming and Lies >>>to us. But if you feel like the only way to help Barry is kicking another >>>company so be it. >>>Most people don't use the language that Barry has used to a dog but if he >>>wants to talk like that it a free country and God bless him. >>>Please except our apologies for any misunderstanding and thanks for you >>input. >>>pagefix@ao* >>> >>> >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aq*.co*'. >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aq*.co*'. >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html > > >
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